Originally posted by Numan
Firstly that is my opinion and I still listed a number of ways that he would be able to outduel Ragnos without sabers clashing. BTW on KOTOR the lightsaber with the right combo of chrystals becomes more powerful than Ajunta Pall's blade. Just thought I would let you know.
Except that Pall != Ragnos and GAMEPLAY IS NOT CANON!
I need to find that post where you reveal yourself as a ten-year-old so the mods can ban you. You violate the TOS by your presence here.
^^^^ HAHAHAHA True
Anyways, Ragnos would pick Yoda up and crush him with the force. The fight would take about 3 seconds max.
Numan, why are you still here? Stop making blatantly stupid assumptions. Seriously, you dont GIVE proof, you just say "yoda fights dooku and dooku blah blah blah blah" thats not an argument, its Hyperbole. And feat wars are a logical fallacy as IKC said. EVERYONE knows Ragnos would beat Yoda effortlessly, except you it seems. ONLY DN Luke and Kun would I put in a one on one fight with Ragnos, Kun would die and even DN Luke prolly wouldn't live, but I give him a 40/ 60 over Ragnos if he was clever enough to not have a full out one on one fight with Ragnos. For DN Luke to win he'd have to be smart, everyone else gets killed.
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Originally posted by IKC
Because Kun > Luke. His offensive capabilities are far greater, for example. I don't see where all this "zOMG, LUKE PWNS ALL" BS comes from.
Not from me, thanks. What I didn't understand was how you saw Kun wounding Ragnos, and still leaving him in good enough shape to "crush" Luke. From what I've seen, if Kun actually managesto hurt Ragnos, he'd hit him pretty hard. Afterall, either a blast from his pwnage amulet or a strike from his lightsaber would hamper Ragnos severely, if not kill him outright.
In actuality, I don't see Kun hurting Ragnos to a noticeable degree. It'd be a nice fight, yeah, but I'm quite sure that the guy who cowed Sadow and Kressh - the former whose amulet helped turn Exar into teh übermench - would be able to topple him.
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
^^^^ HAHAHAHA TrueAnyways, Ragnos would pick Yoda up and crush him with the force. The fight would take about 3 seconds max.
Numan, why are you still here? Stop making blatantly stupid assumptions. Seriously, you dont GIVE proof, you just say "yoda fights dooku and dooku blah blah blah blah" thats not an argument, its Hyperbole. And feat wars are a logical fallacy as IKC said. EVERYONE knows Ragnos would beat Yoda effortlessly, except you it seems. ONLY DN Luke and Kun would I put in a one on one fight with Ragnos, Kun would die and even DN Luke prolly wouldn't live, but I give him a 40/ 60 over Ragnos if he was clever enough to not have a full out one on one fight with Ragnos. For DN Luke to win he'd have to be smart, everyone else gets killed.
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What he said
Originally posted by Faunus
Not from me, thanks. What I didn't understand was how you saw Kun wounding Ragnos, and still leaving him in good enough shape to "crush" Luke. From what I've seen, if Kun actually managesto hurt Ragnos, he'd hit him pretty hard. Afterall, either a blast from his pwnage amulet or a strike from his lightsaber would hamper Ragnos severely, if not kill him outright.In actuality, I don't see Kun hurting Ragnos to a noticeable degree. It'd be a nice fight, yeah, but I'm quite sure that the guy who cowed Sadow and Kressh - the former whose amulet helped turn Exar into teh übermench - would be able to topple him.
Honestly, I don't think a wound from Kun would be severe enough to let Ragnos be toppled by Luke, who is weaker than Kun. Yes, the amulet blasts are massive (and by the way, to say that the amulet alone turned Kun into the powerhouse he was is unsupported) but I'm fairly confident there are means to block it known by the Ancient Sith. Otherwise, I'm unsure Ragnos would have lived as long as he did.
SO you're assuming Kun is going to give Ragnos the most trouble? LOL...And that is a question not a sarcastic statement. If this is your assumption then you clearly forget about Nadd who is on par with Kun, and the 3 ancient sith lords of the golden age. I won't mention DN Luke since you will believe Kun is better than him no matter what.
Originally posted by IKC
Honestly, I don't think a wound from Kun would be severe enough to let Ragnos be toppled by Luke, who is weaker than Kun. Yes, the amulet blasts are massive (and by the way, to say that the amulet alone turned Kun into the powerhouse he was is unsupported) but I'm fairly confident there are means to block it known by the Ancient Sith. Otherwise, I'm unsure Ragnos would have lived as long as he did.
If a wound from Kun wouldn't faze Ragnos, why even mention it?
And when did I say that the amulet turned Kun into what he became? I said it helped, which is obvious.
I really don't see how two of the strongest lords from the golden age who's remnant knowledge (and it was remnant, considering Sadow had practically nothing with him when he rebuilt his stuff on Yavin IV) made other individuals godly is inferior to Kun.
If Kun manages to wound him, Ragnos will fall to 7, as each of those three are at least on Kun's tier. I very much doubt Kun wounds Ragnos.
2 and 3 should be switched, Darth Maul is nothing, and Ulic is an underrated character around here. Freedon Nadd is also underrated, he was a "powerless" spirit yet still managed to bring about an incredibly strong dark side aura on an entire planet. He was a spirit that wasn't bound to a location (we see him on Korriban and Onderon) which is more than most sith spirits have boasted. Even as a spirit, he was able to floor people like Nomi Sunrider and Vodo Siosk Baas with relative ease, as well as causing avalanches, cave ins, and other such large scale uses of the force. With a body and presumably with a few artifacts of his own, logic dictates he is definitely underrated. Considering Nadd learned practically everything he knew from Sadow, it seems unlikely that Sadow would be placed on such a low tier either.
Basically it's 7 or win. But really, why do you keep making Ragnos threads? It's getting rather annoying.
A) It's a mighty assumption to just claim Nadd is on par with Exar Kun. There's been no primary source material written on his life, it is extremely difficult to say.
B )
If a wound from Kun wouldn't faze Ragnos, why even mention it?
I didn't say it wouldn't faze him, I said it wouldn't be effective enough for Ragnos to be toppled by Skywalker, who is far weaker and less offense-prone than Kun.
C)
And when did I say that the amulet turned Kun into what he became? I said it helped, which is obvious.
No, it's an assumption. We do not know the properties of this amulet other than it can 1) destroy spirits and 2) allow the user to fire huge energy blasts from their hands.
Originally posted by Illustrious
I really don't see how two of the strongest lords from the golden age who's remnant knowledge (and it was remnant, considering Sadow had practically nothing with him when he rebuilt his stuff on Yavin IV) made other individuals godly is inferior to Kun.If Kun manages to wound him, Ragnos will fall to 7, as each of those three are at least on Kun's tier. I very much doubt Kun wounds Ragnos.
2 and 3 should be switched, Darth Maul is nothing, and Ulic is an underrated character around here. Freedon Nadd is also underrated, he was a "powerless" spirit yet still managed to bring about an incredibly strong dark side aura on an entire planet. He was a spirit that wasn't bound to a location (we see him on Korriban and Onderon) which is more than most sith spirits have boasted. Even as a spirit, he was able to floor people like Nomi Sunrider and Vodo Siosk Baas with relative ease, as well as causing avalanches, cave ins, and other such large scale uses of the force. With a body and presumably with a few artifacts of his own, logic dictates he is definitely underrated. Considering Nadd learned practically everything he knew from Sadow, it seems unlikely that Sadow would be placed on such a low tier either.
Basically it's 7 or win. But really, why do you keep making Ragnos threads? It's getting rather annoying.
Agreed.