Sersi,Thena and Makkari vs The Justice League

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/galacticmarathon.htm

there you have it..as stated, "makkari moves at absolute speed. and thinks at hyperspeed". he is speed personified..

but what IS it? no one knows. not fast enough to time travel, apparently, nor can he manipulate speed like flash. it's remains too . . . undefined.

While I don't think Flash is faster than Makkari, it's irrelevant as Flash's foes have beaten him with no speed at all and less energy power and strength which Makkari also has. Makkari has high level energy powers and class50 strength and is between faster or nearly as fast as than Flash. Speed isn't the only factor, after all Flash isn't unbeatable just because he's fast, if he is faster than Makkari (which I don't think he is), he still loses because Makkari can at least keep up and blast him.

Originally posted by leonidas
but what IS it? no one knows. not fast enough to time travel, apparently, nor can he manipulate speed like flash. it's remains too . . . undefined.

It was concluded in a thread that Runner beats Flash, and thus Makkari definately does too.

Plus Flash has to resist call of speed force and accelerate as well while Makkari is always at full speed and has no speed force danger

runner with gem, perhaps. runner without lost to mak and would lose to flash.

and flash mat not be unbeatable, but it's exactly because of his speed. flash standing still and not moving is basically a regular human . . .

eternals are a lot like elders, btw -- they DO possess all the powers of their race, but they possess them at various levels dependent on how much practice/focus they put into them. mak has spent most of his time honing his speed, which is why he was always faster than the others. sersi manipulates better than the rest because that is what she focused on. mak would beat flash with his speed (unless flash stole it -- why couldn't he? he once stole the speed of an entire PLANET! and was said to be able to steal superman's speed) or likely nothing at all. he does possess the other powers but he is not nearly as procificient with them as other eternals are. besides, how does he blast if flash outruns the blast? flash has outrun DEATH! it's not just that he's fast -- he's a 'master of speed'. mak can't even control the speed trap he's in! the perfect solution for him would be to have flash steal some of his speed and slow him down! now that's ironic . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
runner with gem, perhaps. runner without lost to mak and would lose to flash.

and flash mat not be unbeatable, but it's exactly because of his speed. flash standing still and not moving is basically a regular human . . .

eternals are a lot like elders, btw -- they DO possess all the powers of their race, but they possess them at various levels dependent on how much practice/focus they put into them. mak has spent most of his time honing his speed, which is why he was always faster than the others. sersi manipulates better than the rest because that is what she focused on. mak would beat flash with his speed (unless flash stole it -- why couldn't he? he once stole the speed of an entire PLANET! and was said to be able to steal superman's speed) or likely nothing at all. he does possess the other powers but he is not nearly as procificient with them as other eternals are. besides, how does he blast if flash outruns the blast? flash has outrun DEATH! it's not just that he's fast -- he's a 'master of speed'. mak can't even control the speed trap he's in! the perfect solution for him would be to have flash steal some of his speed and slow him down! now that's ironic . . .

Makkari also has speed powers "Can use his hyper-speed for multiple and creative purposes". Flash still has call of speed force problem and Makkari is too fast to have speed stolen from him. (He also has good cosmic manipulation, easily as good as the average Eternal - his blasts crippled Interloper - its just he's not as good as people like Mentor and Ikaris)

so, how does the balst hit him if flash outraces it? and if his control is such, why can't mak get out of his hyperspeed? and supes was moving at near light speed when flash could have stolen his speed. it's your opinion mak is too fast to 'steal' from, but there is nothing to support that notion.

Originally posted by leonidas
runner with gem, perhaps. runner without lost to mak and would lose to flash.

and flash mat not be unbeatable, but it's exactly because of his speed. flash standing still and not moving is basically a regular human . . .

eternals are a lot like elders, btw -- they DO possess all the powers of their race, but they possess them at various levels dependent on how much practice/focus they put into them. mak has spent most of his time honing his speed, which is why he was always faster than the others. sersi manipulates better than the rest because that is what she focused on. mak would beat flash with his speed (unless flash stole it -- why couldn't he? he once stole the speed of an entire PLANET! and was said to be able to steal superman's speed) or likely nothing at all. he does possess the other powers but he is not nearly as procificient with them as other eternals are. besides, how does he blast if flash outruns the blast? flash has outrun DEATH! it's not just that he's fast -- he's a 'master of speed'. mak can't even control the speed trap he's in! the perfect solution for him would be to have flash steal some of his speed and slow him down! now that's ironic . . .

Makkari also has speed powers "Can use his hyper-speed for multiple and creative purposes". Flash still has call of speed force problem and Makkari is too fast to have speed stolen from him. (He also has good cosmic manipulation, easily as good as the average Eternal - his blasts crippled Interloper - its just he's not as good as people like Mentor and Ikaris)

mak is too fast to have his speed stolen? maybe in your opinion, but you can't possibly know that for certain. supes was traveling near light speed and flash could have stolen his speed. and how does he blast flash if slash outraces the blast?

Supes moved at almost light speed. Makkari is speed itself..do the math. Like I said, Makk has the essence of speed aura...Flash aint taking it.

in your opinion he ain't . . .

i've seen no evidence to support it.

and ive seen no evidence to support flash can take his speed.

he's never failed to take speed before. anyway, i've not found any mention of a book with ss and forgotten one. anyone out there no of a ss title where forgotten one defeated ss?