Nightwing/Robin vs. Nick Fury/Punisher

Originally posted by Marcus4600
You get a better idea of how well they fight in the Marvel MAX series. Frank knows 4 martial arts, and Fury is a good boxer. Also, these two have their toughness and extreme endurance going for them. The kids would tire before they would. jgiant can back me up on the fight with Mongolian, and I doubt either of them could have taken The Russian. Also, don't doubt war veterans. Fury was in WWII and Nam. He's amazing.

People say that Nightwing couldn't hurt Punisher...

Here he beats on Blockbuster. Blockbuster is a beast, and is able to do stuff like shrug off 13,000 volts, take hollow rounds to chest and level small buildings...Nightwing is capable of hurting him:
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsblockbuster17ja.gif
http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsblockbuster21kj.gif
http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster37rq.gif
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster47iy.gif
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster59en.gif
Check out, he smashed that guy's face on pavement with ease.

Here he puts the hurt on Blockbuster again:
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain43hc.gif
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain59lr.gif

Here he lifts an fridge like it's nothing and handles it in mid-air:
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1996throwsafridgetoenemies.gif

Here he punches through car window with ease:
http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1996punchingthroughcarwind.gif

Knocking out a guy by throwing a doorknob on him:
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1996knocksoutaguywithadoor.gif

Here he lifts a bed above his shoulders like nothing:
http://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997dodgesbulletsandthrows.gif

Here he is reeling Man-Bat, a 200 pound monster in:
http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998reelsmanbatin5gq.gif

Punching through bus windows:
http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998punchesthroughbuswindo.gif

Here he sends three guys and hospital doors flying by pushing a hospital bed at them.
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998pusheshospitalbed1bt.gif

Nightwing leaps with a full grown man and carries him like nothing:
http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1999doesleapswithaman1ro.gif

Here he handles KGBeast with some nice judo throws. KGBeast must weigh a lot:
http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1999throwskgbeastlikenothi.gif

Here he hits a guy's face through brick wall with simple ease:
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year2000hitstorquesfacethrough.gif

His strength is really underrated. Frank is stronger, but not by much. Dick's speed and acrobatics outclass Frank by so much that it isn't funny. And he is also better fighter. I would say that without weapons Nightwing would take the majority.

His Respect Thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t394077.html

This dude rips steel doors with ease:
http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wildebeest9aw.gif

Nightwing topples him twice:

http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1987dodgeswildebeestsblows.gif
http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1987fightswildebeest6ck.gif

^ I'm not saying he can't hurt Punisher. I'm saying he can't hurt him enough.

Why couldn't he?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
People say that Nightwing couldn't hurt Punisher...

Here he beats on Blockbuster. Blockbuster is a beast, and is able to do stuff like shrug off 13,000 volts, take hollow rounds to chest and level small buildings...Nightwing is capable of hurting him:
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsblockbuster17ja.gif
http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsblockbuster21kj.gif
http://img504.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster37rq.gif
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster47iy.gif
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fightsblockbuster59en.gif
Check out, he smashed that guy's face on pavement with ease.

Here he puts the hurt on Blockbuster again:
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain43hc.gif
http://img485.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997fightsbbagain59lr.gif

Here he lifts an fridge like it's nothing and handles it in mid-air:
http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1996throwsafridgetoenemies.gif

Here he punches through car window with ease:
http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1996punchingthroughcarwind.gif

Knocking out a guy by throwing a doorknob on him:
http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1996knocksoutaguywithadoor.gif

Here he lifts a bed above his shoulders like nothing:
http://img458.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1997dodgesbulletsandthrows.gif

Here he is reeling Man-Bat, a 200 pound monster in:
http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998reelsmanbatin5gq.gif

Punching through bus windows:
http://img474.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998punchesthroughbuswindo.gif

Here he sends three guys and hospital doors flying by pushing a hospital bed at them.
http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998pusheshospitalbed1bt.gif

Nightwing leaps with a full grown man and carries him like nothing:
http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1999doesleapswithaman1ro.gif

Here he handles KGBeast with some nice judo throws. KGBeast must weigh a lot:
http://img465.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1999throwskgbeastlikenothi.gif

Here he hits a guy's face through brick wall with simple ease:
http://img456.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year2000hitstorquesfacethrough.gif

His strength is really underrated. Frank is stronger, but not by much. Dick's speed and acrobatics outclass Frank by so much that it isn't funny. And he is also better fighter. I would say that without weapons Nightwing would take the majority.

His Respect Thread:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t394077.html

good post, i think nightwing is being extremely underrated here
on the other hand, Nightwing is at a disadvantage because It would probably end up being 2v1, robin might not be much help against Pun/Nick
For the record, Nightwing is unquestionably more agile than nick and Punisher combind

Im trying to get more Fury comics, but hes pretty agile as well. Much more than people think.

Edit: Nice scans DC. Noone is saying that Nightwing wont put up a good fight, but hed eventually get double teamed. How good is his h2h skills?

I recall him knowing about half a dozen martial arts, if I am right. His martial arts style relies a lot on his speed and acrobatics.

And yeah, he could not defeat both Fury and Punisher. But he could beat them both individually.

Here's him taking on Deathstroke:
http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998fightsdeathstroke18py.gif
http://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998fightsdeathstroke23qh.gif

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I recall him knowing about half a dozen martial arts, if I am right. His martial arts style relies a lot on his speed and acrobatics.

And yeah, he could not defeat both Fury and Punisher. But he could beat them both individually.

Here's him taking on Deathstroke:
http://img489.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998fightsdeathstroke18py.gif
http://img478.imageshack.us/my.php?image=year1998fightsdeathstroke23qh.gif

That was a decent amount of time ago. In NW #116, Dick made fun of Slade because he always fails at killing him.

Slade: Give me a reason I shouldn't kill you.
Nightwing: Because you always fail and that makes you mad.

Nice catching the sword and stuff. Deathstroke didn't seem all that serious. Perhaps because of Rose kept interupting.

2 or 3 issues before that, Deathstroke KOed Dick in one kick. And that was also largely due to Rose interupting.
lol.

Rose should stop cutting in but Dick wasn't serious either. He didn't show up to fight Slade.

Batman>DD>Nightwing
Punisher can keep up with DD, Nightwing and Bats got pwned by Gambit and Wolvie in Marvel/DC (They stole the batmobile) and Punisher or Fury have or would beat either of them in h2h
Even without weapons, Frank and Fury crush the Batman sidekicks

If were talking h2h DD>Bats>Nightwing, but I've heard NW has a mental block when fighting Bruce 'cause he feels like he's fighting a father figure.