List things characters do that they shouldn't be able to do.

Originally posted by Marcus4600
I wasn't really that impressed with IC.

Of course not. You didn't even like Kingdom Come...

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Originally posted by Marcus4600
ctually, the numbers are that Marvel is in the top running, not DC. You may wanna check on that again.

No. DC is selling more typically because of the Infinite Crisis. Check your sources again.

Originally posted by Marcus4600
Also, from it's beginning, Marvel has won more awards than DC for their stories.

Wrong again. DC has won more awards. Particularly due to the Watchmen series, the Vertigo series, Kingdom Come, The Dark Knight Returns, Superman Red Son, etc.

Originally posted by Marcus4600
It's theme of contrasting heroism was done well, but the theme has been done in comics before, over and over again.

All themes are recurring. It's a fact of literature. Marvel is by no means immune to this. Spider-Man is suffering enormously because his writers are desperately trying to come up with fresh ideas. Like a Iron-Man costume with robot arms....

Originally posted by Marcus4600
It's dry, and it's outdated. Just not my thing. Also, I don't like sequels to 15 year old stories.

Again. Themes are recurring. Marvel is by no means immune. See Wolverine take on the Hand....again. See the Hulk take on Thor...again. Magneto's bad, no now he's good, whoop's he's bad again....again.

Phoenix is back! I think. She died again? Oh well.

Both Marvel and DC suffer from stale ideas.

Originally posted by Marcus4600
Also, DC does have that habit. Their heroes start with a base set of powers, then every time there's a huge crisis, they get more powerful, and more powerful. Take a look at pre-crisis Superman. Post-crisis is undergoing the same thing. I just don't like it.

This is your major problem. You say DC is overpowered based on the Big 7. Superman. Flash. Wonder Woman. Green Lantern. Etc.

Yet you don't complain about the ridiculously powerful Silver Surfer. Or Thor who got three upgrades in one year. Or Blackbolt who can kill anything just by saying a word. Or Beta Ray Bill who blows up planets in his spare time. Or Dr. Strange that took on friggin Eternity. Or the gaggle of cosmics that appear for less than a month than disappear.

And DC is overpowered despite the the hundreds of nameless cosmics running around Marvel?

Originally posted by Draco69
Of course not. You didn't even like Kingdom Come...

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No. DC is selling more typically because of the Infinite Crisis. Check your sources again.

Wrong again. DC has won more awards. Particularly due to the Watchmen series, the Vertigo series, Kingdom Come, The Dark Knight Returns, Superman Red Son, etc.

All themes are recurring. It's a fact of literature. Marvel is by no means immune to this. Spider-Man is suffering enormously because his writers are desperately trying to come up with fresh ideas. Like a Iron-Man costume with robot arms....

Again. Themes are recurring. Marvel is by no means immune. See Wolverine take on the Hand....again. See the Hulk take on Thor...again. Magneto's bad, no now he's good, whoop's he's bad again....again.

Phoenix is back! I think. She died again? Oh well.

Both Marvel and DC suffer from stale ideas.

This is your major problem. You say DC is overpowered based on the Big 7. Superman. Flash. Wonder Woman. Green Lantern. Etc.

Yet you don't complain about the ridiculously powerful Silver Surfer. Or Thor who got three upgrades in one year. Or Blackbolt who can kill anything just by saying a word. Or Beta Ray Bill who blows up planets in his spare time. Or Dr. Strange that took on friggin Eternity. Or the gaggle of cosmics that appear for less than a month than disappear.

And DC is overpowered despite the the hundreds of nameless cosmics running around Marvel?

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I do not think that Superman should do any of the things that he does. Period! I do not like how he is the strongest, plus fastest , plus the best at everything. He can be the strongest, but why does DC also have him be just as fast as the Flash. It makes the Flash unneccessary. Superman is the main example of how DC makes their characters too powerful. DC needs to show less favoritism to Superman. Marvel gives all of their characters respect and has them stand on their own. As you can see, I detest Superman.

Originally posted by kenobi
I do not think that Superman should do any of the things that he does. Period! I do not like how he is the strongest, plus fastest , plus the best at everything. He can be the strongest, but why does DC also have him be just as fast as the Flash. It makes the Flash unneccessary. Superman is the main example of how DC makes their characters too powerful. DC needs to show less favoritism to Superman. Marvel gives all of their characters respect and has them stand on their own. As you can see, I detest Superman.

Flash is faster, when he wants to he leaves Superman for dust...

MM is arguably more powerful, same goes for Shazam...

DC imo is just as good if not better than Marvel story wise, and just as if not more realistic in terms of characterisation...

and how can anyone not like Kingdom Come?

I didn't say that I didn't like Kingdom Come, did I? I thought it was brilliant! It's one of my top ten favorite comic stories. It's great because it acknowledges the fact that metahumans with that much power really aren't going to make the world THAT safe. In my opinion, it's an acknowledgement that the heroes of DC can be real jerks, and how uneasy would leaders would be in real life.

As for the cosmics, they're that powerful for a reason. It's mostly due to the fact that if they're ever turned on earth, how much of a threat they are. I don't read the cosmic stuff much, but I am looking forward to Annihilation. Civil War is gonna be good too. Here's the thing though. A lot of Marvel writers are complaining that we don't have good writers, when we do. Some people haven't read Supreme Power, The Ultimates, Alias, and many other more mature reads that are just fantastic. I say give it a year, and Marvel will be back to its amazing self, and we'll be out of this little funk.

Originally posted by pr1983
DC imo is just as good if not better than Marvel story wise, and just as if not more realistic in terms of characterisation...

I disagree with you there

Originally posted by Marcus4600
I didn't say that I didn't like Kingdom Come, did I? I thought it was brilliant! It's one of my top ten favorite comic stories. It's great because it acknowledges the fact that metahumans with that much power really aren't going to make the world THAT safe. In my opinion, it's an acknowledgement that the heroes of DC can be real jerks, and how uneasy would leaders would be in real life.

As for the cosmics, they're that powerful for a reason. It's mostly due to the fact that if they're ever turned on earth, how much of a threat they are. I don't read the cosmic stuff much, but I am looking forward to Annihilation. Civil War is gonna be good too. Here's the thing though. A lot of Marvel writers are complaining that we don't have good writers, when we do. Some people haven't read Supreme Power, The Ultimates, Alias, and many other more mature reads that are just fantastic. I say give it a year, and Marvel will be back to its amazing self, and we'll be out of this little funk.

Oh i agree marvel has some excellent titles, but the majority imo are rather poor... house of m was truly awful imo, yet ic seems to get better and better imo...

Originally posted by Scoobless
I disagree with you there

You're free to... having different opinions is a good thing... ✅

I don't like how inconstistant Marvel Earth citizens are. lol.
They love people who had strange accidents transform them into wierd creatures and beasts. They cheer SPiderman and Thing and the rest of the Fantastic Four. But they ****ing hate the x men! How dare those mutants exist! Kill them all!

Originally posted by kenobi
I do not think that Superman should do any of the things that he does. Period! I do not like how he is the strongest, plus fastest , plus the best at everything. He can be the strongest, but why does DC also have him be just as fast as the Flash. It makes the Flash unneccessary. Superman is the main example of how DC makes their characters too powerful. DC needs to show less favoritism to Superman. Marvel gives all of their characters respect and has them stand on their own. As you can see, I detest Superman.

What are you talking about 😑?

Flash is faster than Superman. Flash can punch at the speed of light, steal anybody's speed, heal at lightspeed, create energy forcefields from the speed force, and run as fast as he wants without causing atmospheric disturbances. He even fought Zoom at faster than light speeds and Superman didn't notice them fighting. Superman can't go too fast without damaging something or heal at lightspeed. As you can see, there are things Flash can do that Superman cannot.

GL is more powerful than Superman. He can do anything such as willing planets together, contaning supernovas, create wormholes, armor, matter, you name it. He can do anything that is not limited by his will or imagination.

MM is more powerful than Superman. He has global telepathy, intangibility, invisibility, and can do anything Superman can do.

WW with the Godwave is also more powerful, especially with her gaunlets that can block multiple skyfather attacks.

Superman is not the best at everything, but overall, he is a force to be reckonned with.

Originally posted by Draco69
Of course not. You didn't even like Kingdom Come...

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No. DC is selling more typically because of the Infinite Crisis. Check your sources again.

Wrong again. DC has won more awards. Particularly due to the Watchmen series, the Vertigo series, Kingdom Come, The Dark Knight Returns, Superman Red Son, etc.

All themes are recurring. It's a fact of literature. Marvel is by no means immune to this. Spider-Man is suffering enormously because his writers are desperately trying to come up with fresh ideas. Like a Iron-Man costume with robot arms....

Again. Themes are recurring. Marvel is by no means immune. See Wolverine take on the Hand....again. See the Hulk take on Thor...again. Magneto's bad, no now he's good, whoop's he's bad again....again.

Phoenix is back! I think. She died again? Oh well.

Both Marvel and DC suffer from stale ideas.

This is your major problem. You say DC is overpowered based on the Big 7. Superman. Flash. Wonder Woman. Green Lantern. Etc.

Yet you don't complain about the ridiculously powerful Silver Surfer. Or Thor who got three upgrades in one year. Or Blackbolt who can kill anything just by saying a word. Or Beta Ray Bill who blows up planets in his spare time. Or Dr. Strange that took on friggin Eternity. Or the gaggle of cosmics that appear for less than a month than disappear.

And DC is overpowered despite the the hundreds of nameless cosmics running around Marvel?

Originally posted by Knightfall93
I love this woman!

Ummmm....he's a guy

Oh and yes, Draco is my hero.

and Knightfall called me gay.

Originally posted by Marcus4600
and Knightfall called me gay.

Knightfall is a troll ignore him.

Yup.

Anyway, I figured another one out. Wolverine should stop hitting on Mary Jane!

Originally posted by Marcus4600
Yup.

Anyway, I figured another one out. Wolverine should stop hitting on Mary Jane!

Why ?

Watching wolverine sail out of the windows of stark tower like some sort of hairy superman is hilarious....

Originally posted by NoFate007
Jason Todd shouldn't have ever been brought back to life.

Originally posted by grey fox
Why ?

Watching wolverine sail out of the windows of stark tower like some sort of hairy superman is hilarious....

That was cool. Didn't he say something to the tune of "punk can't take a joke"?

Originally posted by Juntai
I don't like how inconstistant Marvel Earth citizens are. lol.
They love people who had strange accidents transform them into wierd creatures and beasts. They cheer SPiderman and Thing and the rest of the Fantastic Four. But they ****ing hate the x men! How dare those mutants exist! Kill them all!

Erm Marvel earth never cheer spider-man actuly the only ppl they particuly cheer are avengers and FF every1 eles are either meh or not trusted.