Creation of the universe

Started by debbiejo12 pages

Then what's the problem with people???????..........Must everything be male?...........Though males are quite nice........you do need a female to make it worth while/wild........... HAHHAHHA

Originally posted by debbiejo
Then what's the problem with people???????..........Must everything be male?...........Though males are quite nice........you do need a female to make it worth while/wild........... HAHHAHHA

If all energies were masculine then the universe would be a huge sausage fest

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
If all energies were masculine then the universe would be a huge sausage fest
Perhaps, god we being made in gods image would be to separate the difference between the male and female energies but in a local image and them coming together to support them to one another....Maybe???

well one thing though I've notice even though it's off topic is that dieties seem to have human characteristics and there usually male and female it could be possible that there are lesser gods...at least I believe.

the universe started as a singularity that exploded and cooled forming all matter and the 4 forces. Time is how we percieve the universe's expansion.

Originally posted by Darth Jello
the universe started as a singularity that exploded and cooled forming all matter and the 4 forces. Time is how we percieve the universe's expansion.

But that leads to the question: were did the singularity come from?

if one of the cosmological models is right and universe is cyclical, it came from a "big crunch"

Originally posted by Darth Jello
if one of the cosmological models is right and universe is cyclical, it came from a "big crunch"

Then we are in agreement. 💃

who ever said it was created?

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
who ever said it was created?

The bible.

Originally posted by debbiejo
So see....This is not a fact. It could be part of a fact, but not the whole true of it all.................That's all I'm saying..........

And It's still Debbie, not Bebbie... 😉

Whats Debbie, Bebbie?

isn't it possible that the universe always was and always will be? we already know our concept of time is flawed, a flawed concept with a purpose, so how do we know that it's just not something we can't fathom?

Is it so farfetched to say that the universe always did and always will exist?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The bible.

right, cause the Bible was right about everything else 🙄

Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
isn't it possible that the universe always was and always will be? we already know our concept of time is flawed, a flawed concept with a purpose, so how do we know that it's just not something we can't fathom?

Is it so farfetched to say that the universe always did and always will exist?

I agree considering space goes on forever and most of the universe is occupied by endless dark matter,I understand planets being created but not the universe it self.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
we are but a bubble of thought roaming blindly in the ocean of noothingness, with no beginning and no end as these are concepts that we ourselves have thought up. oblivion is the beginning and the end, or nuthing at all. we dont really exist, WE just think we do.
Don't sell yourself short...We are all infinite.............This is only but a temporary............since energy cannot be destroyed........This is only possibly(according to some believes)...........a learning experience.

This is not the final................

Originally posted by debbiejo
And what started the "Big Bang??"

First thing I gotta ask is: what does everyone here mean by the "universe?"

Do you mean the observable bubble of luminous matter: stars, galaxies, etc, pus "dark matter" and "dark energy?" And it may not end there. Inflation and the effect of dark energy suggest that the Observable Bubble is but a tiny point at the center of a far, far vaster bubble (eg, think proton at the center of the Earth as the Observable Bubble, and the whole Earth as the Entire Bubble).

If this is what you mean by "universe," then, as pointed out, it began as a huge explosion some 14 gigayears back, originating from a singularity. Why did the singularity explode? Some have suggested because it was unstable. Why was it unstable? Why not?

If by "universe" you mean All There Ever Was, All There Is (outside of which exists nothing) and All There Ever Will Be, well, then, the answer to the question of creation is obvious.

Given the second scenario, our Bubble is but one of an infinite number, existing in a Multi-/Meta-/Omni-verse where unstable universe-bubbles are "flashing" in and out existence all the time, in a way similar to how virtual particles in our spacetime come and go (but, of course, on a much larger time scale, where an "instant" in the Multiverse is, say, 10^1000 years our time).

Some have even suggested that this Omniverse is infinitely fractal in nature.

God I love this stuff

Originally posted by Mindship
First thing I gotta ask is: what does everyone here mean by the "universe?"

Do you mean the observable bubble of luminous matter: stars, galaxies, etc, pus "dark matter" and "dark energy?" And it may not end there. Inflation and the effect of dark energy suggest that the Observable Bubble is but a tiny point at the center of a far, far vaster bubble (eg, think proton at the center of the Earth as the Observable Bubble, and the whole Earth as the Entire Bubble).

If this is what you mean by "universe," then, as pointed out, it began as a huge explosion some 14 gigayears back, originating from a singularity. Why did the singularity explode? Some have suggested because it was unstable. Why was it unstable? Why not?

If by "universe" you mean All There Ever Was, All There Is (outside of which exists nothing) and All There Ever Will Be, well, then, the answer to the question of creation is obvious.

Given the second scenario, our Bubble is but one of an infinite number, existing in a Multi-/Meta-/Omni-verse where unstable universe-bubbles are "flashing" in and out existence all the time, in a way similar to how virtual particles in our spacetime come and go (but, of course, on a much larger time scale, where an "instant" in the Multiverse is, say, 10^1000 years our time).

Some have even suggested that this Omniverse is infinitely fractal in nature.

God I love this stuff

I mean the universe + everything that has, is or will be + everthing that hasn't, is not, and will never be + more.

I think I do................exist that is.......Mindship

Well, now, things are that much clearer.

jerry

everything from the greatest to the most trivial concept/feeling/understand exists in our MIND. the universe does not exist only what WE FEAL to be the universe exists, in short only thoughts exist and nuthing material really does.