Creation of the universe

Originally posted by debbiejo
I think I do................exist that is.......Mindship

I think, therefore I am.

Or am I? I think I am...? therefore I think I am...therefore, I am...if I think I am. But what if I don't think I am? I think...

If you don't think you are, then you obviously are not.

We doubt, therefore we are...aren't we?

Originally posted by debbiejo
If you don't think you are, then you obviously are not.

What if God doesn't think He is? Can he think Himself out of existence??? Damn you, Descartes!!!

Originally posted by leonheartmm
everything from the greatest to the most trivial concept/feeling/understand exists in our MIND. the universe does not exist only what WE FEAL to be the universe exists, in short only thoughts exist and nuthing material really does.

What was there before you existed?

There is a true nature to the universe, but we can never understand it from this vantage point.

Originally posted by debbiejo
I don't know????????? 😂

Possibly there are many theories, and yet non are set, cause they all have holes in them.....So, why can't we combine them. Why not think there was some kind of intelligence that had to do with us evolving?...And also, why couldn't it also be that it had to do with quantum physics with other dimensions as well overlapping with ours to bring life here from somewhere else?.........It's all just theories...Nothing in concrete IMO.

May I recommend Making Choices

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
What was there before you existed?

There is a true nature to the universe, but we can never understand it from this vantage point.

does there have to be anything before YOU existed. is there even a YOU? after all what you think is YOU is just your MEMORIES{even if u dont agree, think about it a little and ull come to the same conclusion, without your memories there is no YOU} if all your memories{concious,subconcious and unconcious} were taken away from you , the YOU that you are WONT exist. if they were to be substituted completely for sum1 else's memories you WUD be HIM/HER. people have this belief that there is something innately individual about them that CANT die with memories etc and is unique only to THEM, i dont know if thats true or not but one thing is for sure, people who say that dont really know what theyr talkin about, they only feal THEMSELVES cause theyr supposed to feal themselves, depending on their memories expiriences etc. but they often forget that any other person would feal the same way and its not UNIQUE to them. this is the same desire that makes people wanna believe that the earth is the centre of the universe which was made solely for THEM as they are chosen or watever by god. n they r right n the entire world is wrong.

anyway as i was sayin, why does there HAVE to exist anything for thoughts to exist{dont get confused by the words} cant conciousness come as natural to oblivion as space comes to EXISTANCE? just a thought.{one of many}

before and after or even PRESENT are just ideas WE have fashioned.

Originally posted by AOR
May I recommend [b]Making Choices [/B]

Originally posted by leonheartmm
does there have to be anything before YOU existed. is there even a YOU? after all what you think is YOU is just your MEMORIES{even if u dont agree, think about it a little and ull come to the same conclusion, without your memories there is no YOU} if all your memories{concious,subconcious and unconcious} were taken away from you , the YOU that you are WONT exist. if they were to be substituted completely for sum1 else's memories you WUD be HIM/HER. people have this belief that there is something innately individual about them that CANT die with memories etc and is unique only to THEM, i dont know if thats true or not but one thing is for sure, people who say that dont really know what theyr talkin about, they only feal THEMSELVES cause theyr supposed to feal themselves, depending on their memories expiriences etc. but they often forget that any other person would feal the same way and its not UNIQUE to them. this is the same desire that makes people wanna believe that the earth is the centre of the universe which was made solely for THEM as they are chosen or watever by god. n they r right n the entire world is wrong.

anyway as i was sayin, why does there HAVE to exist anything for thoughts to exist{dont get confused by the words} cant conciousness come as natural to oblivion as space comes to EXISTANCE? just a thought.{one of many}

I have spent a lot of time going down this train of thought and I have concluded that beyond all the illusions of life, there is a real universe, and live in it, but we can never understand it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have spent a lot of time going down this train of thought and I have concluded that beyond all the illusions of life, there is a real universe, and live in it, but we can never understand it.

perhaps because if you were to continue going deeper and deeper, you would have to strip yourself of everything that you ever had faith in{even the simple things like love etc} along with your rationality, concionce sanity and any and all reason{including reason to continue going down the same path or living or existing at all}. not dissin you at all shaky, just another thought 🙂 . oh yea i forgot humanity.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
perhaps because if you were to continue going deeper and deeper, you would have to strip yourself of everything that you ever had faith in{even the simple things like love etc} along with your rationality, concionce sanity and any and all reason{including reason to continue going down the same path or living or existing at all}. not dissin you at all shaky, just another thought 🙂 . oh yea i forgot humanity.

So, what I am telling you is have have gone down that path and only found myself in the end. Believe me...

i bet you didnt look any different did you{thas not the end though, if u can believe it, but faith in these things is often unbreakable as i have seen}

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i bet you didnt look any different did you{thas not the end though, if u can believe it, but faith in these things is often unbreakable as i have seen}

only a lil more aware maybe.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Once you enter the womb realm, you realize you are to alone.

that is the rule. one who truly posesses power, or has seen even the slightest hint of it, is destined to be alone. perfectly alone. and silent. needless to say its why almost no1 dares walk that path till the end.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
only a lil more aware maybe.

There is you, and then there is your true self; your entity. This is true with everything. So, in a way you are correct, we are only illusion, but we are also a true entity that cannot die.

ahhh but you are that only because you WILL yourself to be. will is after all on of the starters of EVERYTHING, very powerful force indeed. but a lifeform based on will alone, without desire is like a hard unfilled shell. lifeless in all ways but one.

Reality is how our brain interacts with matter since we never directly interact with any form of matter all our 5 senses are dictated by how our brain perceives it this image is limited by our 5 senses.

damn i thought id forgotten these things.