Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The idea that one religion is true and all others are false is arrogance.
If that's what you want to call it. You won't change my mind. I know that God is the ONLY God, the God of the universe, the Creator of the Universe. The God that sent His Son to die for you and for me. I'm not saying that He is only the God of Christians. He is the Only God. The God of all people if they will just accept Him into their lives. He loves you and me and people of all religions, even though their ways are His ways. He just wants us to know Him and glorify Him and fellowship with Him.
Originally posted by debbiejo
No, that's not what the thread said at all. Can you tell me what it said?
It doesn't really matter what the thread said. The definition of grace is unmerited favor according to you. And, yes, I agree with that. But, the unmerited favor of Jesus Christ is the only grace that can save us from our sins, therefore it is the only grace that matters, thus the grace you spoke of in your thread doesn't really matter in the big scheme of things. That grace is nice and all, but it won't save people.
I'm just going to tell you all one thing: I CANNOT MAKE YOU BELIEVE IN GOD. It is something that you can choose to do. I tell you what I think and you don't care. That makes me sad, for I truly know the TRUTH and I only want to share it with you. I'm not on this to argue or prove that God is God, for that is something I already know and don't have to prove. I'm just on here to let you know about Jesus, so when the day comes that you see Him face to face, you can't say you were never told. I'm telling you about His grace right now, plain and simple... Jesus was the spotless and blameless Son of God. He came to this earth in the form of a man to die for the sins of the world that we might have fellowship with God that was destroyed when Eve first ate that piece of fruit. It's a simple Truth, believing it determines your destiny. You've heard it. You can take it or leave it. And, you can know that nothing you say will make me doubt my God and the love He has for me and all of His creation. He truly does love you, even when you doubt Him and all He has done for you.
Originally posted by MicahLynnYou have been so indoctrinated that you can't even see beyond your book.
It doesn't really matter what the thread said. The definition of grace is unmerited favor according to you. And, yes, I agree with that. But, the unmerited favor of Jesus Christ is the only grace that can save us from our sins, therefore it is the only grace that matters, thus the grace you spoke of in your thread doesn't really matter in the big scheme of things. That grace is nice and all, but it won't save people.
Originally posted by MicahLynn
If that's what you want to call it. You won't change my mind. I know that God is the ONLY God, the God of the universe, the Creator of the Universe. The God that sent His Son to die for you and for me. I'm not saying that He is only the God of Christians. He is the Only God. The God of all people if they will just accept Him into their lives. He loves you and me and people of all religions, even though their ways are His ways. He just wants us to know Him and glorify Him and fellowship with Him.
God is not a he, and God does not want or need.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Yes, we have explained this to her, but she wants to believe in a needy self gratifying god that is a gender........And tell us how lost we are.
Each of us are at our own level of growth. She is were she needs to be. I just wish I could stop people like her from doing harm to others. I am not saying that she is doing any harm to anyone, but I know people who have done harm while preaching the "word of god".
you call me judgmental and opinionated and close minded, but you won't open your eyes to see the Truth that is right in front of you. I have known people to do harm, but what they were speaking of was most likely false or not inspired by God. You have yet to answer my question. I told you that what I want you to believe is for your own benefit. Why do you want me to stop believing this that I might believe what you believe? It doens't make sense why you argue with me if there is nothing for you to offer me. If life is as you perceive it to be, with no heaven or hell, whats it matter if I choose to believe there is. However, there is a heaven and a hell, and God created me to honor and glorify Him, and that's what I'm going to do.
Originally posted by MicahLynnYou're just scared to believe anything but what you were taught.....And you are the judgmental one because you keep saying you know the TRUTH...Which is implying that we are following a lie.
you call me judgmental and opinionated and close minded, but you won't open your eyes to see the Truth that is right in front of you. I have known people to do harm, but what they were speaking of was most likely false or not inspired by God. You have yet to answer my question. I told you that what I want you to believe is for your own benefit. Why do you want me to stop believing this that I might believe what you believe? It doens't make sense why you argue with me if there is nothing for you to offer me. If life is as you perceive it to be, with no heaven or hell, whats it matter if I choose to believe there is. However, there is a heaven and a hell, and God created me to honor and glorify Him, and that's what I'm going to do.
Originally posted by MicahLynn
you call me judgmental and opinionated and close minded, but you won't open your eyes to see the Truth that is right in front of you. I have known people to do harm, but what they were speaking of was most likely false or not inspired by God. You have yet to answer my question. I told you that what I want you to believe is for your own benefit. Why do you want me to stop believing this that I might believe what you believe? It doens't make sense why you argue with me if there is nothing for you to offer me. If life is as you perceive it to be, with no heaven or hell, whats it matter if I choose to believe there is. However, there is a heaven and a hell, and God created me to honor and glorify Him, and that's what I'm going to do.
I don't know if you are talking to me or Deb.
For me... There is no harm if you believe what you believe, however, have you talked to a devout Muslim lately? The problem in society comes into play when two groups of headstrong people who blindly believe they are right and everyone else is wrong. This often times leads to war. War is evil, I think you would agree with that.
Originally posted by debbiejo
You're just scared to believe anything but what you were taught.....And you are the judgmental one because you keep saying you know the TRUTH...Which is implying that we are following a lie.
If you put it that way, I guess it is implying that you are following a lie. That might sound harsh, but one day you'll wish you had believed the Truth. I'm not scared to believe something other than what I was taught, I'm scared to not believe the Truth, which I have believed since I was only 7 years old. I'm not going to abandon the Truth just because people like you tell me that it is only because I am scared that I believe in the Sovereign Lord.
By the way, just calling me judgmental is being judgmental, so it must be something we are all guilty of.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Prove to me that it's the truth then.
As I've said before, I can only tell you what I know and allow the Holy Spirit to work in your life from there. Believing the Truth isn't something I can make you do. God could, but He won't. That's the point of free will. As much as He wants you to believe, He won't force you. Accepting the Truth as Truth is a matter of choice.