Creation of the universe

Originally posted by leonheartmm
erm i NEVER SAID that ENERGY could be created or destroyed, i said MATTER could be created and destroyed{n the guy claims thatit cant be}

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_conservation_of_matter

i'm just curious as to why he believes in the things he does, just as with everyone that disagrees with Christianity. i want to know why, and i won't let an avatar get in the way of that.

Originally posted by finti
I believe what I does cause it is what I think its the right way, why I disagree with christianity, well I find all religions rather ridiculous. So its nothing more than those simple facts

Why do you find it ridiculous? You have to have a reason. If you don't, maybe you should look into it and try to find one... but I bet in the end, you would find Truth.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
The first law of conservation of mass says that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. This longstanding fundamental law of physics suprisingly still stands today. The laws further dictate that the same holds true for energy and charge. These quantities can only be converted between one antoher. Matter isn't destroyed in a nuclear reaction. The energy released is the result of a sustained nuclear reaction which occurs as a release of energy from the reaction. The fundamental unit of matter still exists. In a net system, the amount of energy, mass, and charge is constant.

whose talkin about energy? i said MATTER{n so did u}

heres an eye opener in a nuclear reaction a small part of the matter is DESTROYED and changed into energy. in fission about 1/450th of the matter is destroyed{which i why the fundamental particles still exist because the change is slight but it DOES exist} and in fusion about 1/200 th of the matter is destroyed. in anti matter reaction 100% of the reacting mass is destroyed and changed into energy.

the law of conservation of matter has been obselee since reletivity was propsed, WHAT WORLD HAVE U BEEN LIVING IN?! the law only exists for CHEMICAL rections NOT nuclear reactions, thas highschool physics dude.

Why do you find it ridiculous?

You have to have a reason. If you don't, maybe you should look into it and try to find one... but I bet in the end, you would find Truth.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
whose talkin about energy? i said MATTER{n so did u}

heres an eye opener in a nuclear reaction a small part of the matter is DESTROYED and changed into energy. in fission about 1/450th of the matter is destroyed{which i why the fundamental particles still exist because the change is slight but it DOES exist} and in fusion about 1/200 th of the matter is destroyed. in anti matter reaction 100% of the reacting mass is destroyed and changed into energy.

Right the matter is converted to another form which is energy and energy can be converted to other form but it can never be lost.

Originally posted by finti
becasue, as for christianity, I find the idea of a creating god lame

We didn't create God, He created us. That us includes you.

the reason is I simply dont believe dont need much more really, and I have found the truth

Deep down, you know your life is missing something. I've been there. You feel empty and alone sometimes. If you'd just look, you'd find what's missing.

If you have found what you call truth, I'd really like to hear about it. I know it is different than what I believe, and there can't be more than one truth, so please fill me in.

Originally posted by MicahLynn
Deep down, you know your life is missing something. I've been there. You feel empty and alone sometimes. If you'd just look, you'd find what's missing.

If you have found what you call truth, I'd really like to hear about it. I know it is different than what I believe, and there can't be more than one truth, so please fill me in.

I have nothing against Christianity or Christians but the truth isn't going to be in just 66 books that have been revised constantly it takes effort and dedication to find.

yea n i didnt SAY energy cud be created or lost. i just that matter could be, and seeing as your whole idea was based on MATTER and not energy, i was just provin a point.

Deep down, you know your life is missing something. I've been there. You feel empty and alone sometimes. If you'd just look, you'd find what's missing

If you have found what you call truth, I'd really like to hear about it. I know it is different than what I believe, and there can't be more than one truth, so please fill me in.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
yea n i didnt SAY energy cud be created or lost. i just that matter could be, and seeing as your whole idea was based on MATTER and not energy, i was just provin a point.

I get your point I'm just saying if matter gets converted into energy then it isn't truly lost it just takes another form and since energy is never lost then it's an infinite process that's all I'm saying 😉

"Einstein showed that a consequence of his special theory of relativity is
that matter and energy are coupled, and that one can indeed create or
destroy matter (or energy) PROVIDED an appropriate exchange is made between
matter and energy. That is, energy can be converted to matter, subtracting
from the universe's store of energy and adding to the total number of
atoms. Conversely, atoms can be destroyed, subtracting from the total
count but thereby adding to the universe's store of energy"

actually at singularities the law of conservation of energy doesnt exist.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
actually at singularities the law of conservation of energy doesnt exist.

True, But that theory of the multiverse is being debated

debated yes, but its very plausible.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I have nothing against Christianity or Christians but the truth isn't going to be in just 66 books that have been revised constantly it takes effort and dedication to find.

You're right God speaks to us in many ways. He reveals Himself to us.... think of BENJI - Bible, Events, Nature, Jesus, Intuition... God's Word is authoritative and true, but it isn't His only way to speak to us and reveal His Truth to us.

Originally posted by MicahLynn
You're right God speaks to us in many ways. He reveals Himself to us.... think of BENJI - Bible, Events, Nature, Jesus, Intuition... God's Word is authoritative and true, but it isn't His only way to speak to us and reveal His Truth to us.

You say God but you don't specify which GOD, The Christian isn't the first,last or only religion and if your talking about Jehovah being truthful read that bible again.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
You say God but you don't specify which GOD, The Christian isn't the first,last or only religion and if your talking about Jehovah being truthful read that bible again.

I believe there is only One God, He is the God of Christianity. He is the God of the Bible. But, don't limit Him to that. He is the God of the Universe, for He created the universe. And, I do read the Bible, I'm a junior at a Bible College, as we speak. I study it every single day. God is the God of Truth and He is never changing. Sure it isn't the only religion, but it is the only One that is right. And, though there are many religions, it doesn't mean that they are all wrong. One of them must be right... and that is Christianity. If you truly studied it, the puzzle pieces world all fit together. But, as a human, you can't see the whole picture, only God can. In the end, on the day of judgment, He will reveal it to us all. We will finally see things as He sees.

But, if those are the things you truly believe and you aren't going to take the time to study it, I can't do anything more for you. I've sown the seed, maybe someone will come along and water it.

Originally posted by MicahLynn
I believe there is only One God, He is the God of Christianity. He is the God of the Bible. But, don't limit Him to that. He is the God of the Universe, for He created the universe. And, I do read the Bible, I'm a junior at a Bible College, as we speak. I study it every single day. God is the God of Truth and He is never changing. Sure it isn't the only religion, but it is the only One that is right. And, though there are many religions, it doesn't mean that they are all wrong. One of them must be right... and that is Christianity. If you truly studied it, the puzzle pieces world all fit together. But, as a human, you can't see the whole picture, only God can. In the end, on the day of judgment, He will reveal it to us all. We will finally see things as He sees.

But, if those are the things you truly believe and you aren't going to take the time to study it, I can't do anything more for you. I've sown the seed, maybe someone will come along and water it.

God is God and doesn't choose a religion to facilitate god's means. The facilitation is man's desire to derive purpose🙂 Remember when you are looking at problems or puzzles you will always find the pieces that fit your puzzle because of your perception.