Darth Bane versus Exar Kun

he is a pussy, therefore he probably sucks ass at fighting, therefore making him lose the fight

That's not a logical statement. It is assumed that Bane was very powerful but it's more reasonable to assume Kun was easily more powerful in the force than Bane, and with a saber it wouldn't be a contest.

Originally posted by Numan
If the army of darkness knew of the thought bomb, I'm sure they would know of things as powerful as ancient sith magic.

Errr... what? Because they used a powerful force attack, they must have known other powerful force attacks?

Wow, if that statement didn't scream false conclusion, nothing does.

Originally posted by Numan
Is that necessarily a bad thing?

Well, considering later generations picked up remnant Sith knowledge and artifacts and became practical gods with it, I'd say it's very bad.

Originally posted by Hello Friend
Knowledge should be gained throughout time as well. For some reason it apparently wasn't in the SW Universe.

Technology advanced, but why would Sith powers? It's not like there was a Sith Empire to go practice them.

Well the Sith of Bane his era did know some impressive things, like the lightning storm and the thought bomb... Still nothing as impressive as the ancient Sith knowledge, but they did create there own stuff.

Bane would get tooled. Regardless of the difficulty factor, it's an obvious victory

Originally posted by Fishy
Well the Sith of Bane his era did know some impressive things, like the lightning storm and the thought bomb... Still nothing as impressive as the ancient Sith knowledge, but they did create there own stuff.

The Force Storm is alluded to in TOTJ as an ancient Sith ability, and it even made its way into the TOTJ Companion as a listed feat.

Practically all the demonstrated "uber Sith abilities" have been rooted to the Ancient Sith. Nihilus' ability is derived from the Ancient Sith, Alchemy and Magic are direct ports from the Ancient Sith, Force Storm and most dark side abilities are directly from the ancient Sith.

Yup, all of the said feats were derived from the ancient sith empire

Originally posted by Illustrious
The Force Storm is alluded to in TOTJ as an ancient Sith ability, and it even made its way into the TOTJ Companion as a listed feat.

Practically all the demonstrated "uber Sith abilities" have been rooted to the Ancient Sith. Nihilus' ability is derived from the Ancient Sith, Alchemy and Magic are direct ports from the Ancient Sith, Force Storm and most dark side abilities are directly from the ancient Sith.

Okay, so then we still have the thought bomb of a possible original weapon, although I don't know if thats the case.. (not arguing it would put them above the ancients just saying its a nice invention)

Also Nihilus his eating ability coming from the ancients, I've heard this several times before, but I find it really strange. Kreia says the technique can not be learned and that there is no defense. No Jedi has ever heard of it, and if the Sith would have used it they would have eaten themselves. So where is the actual evidence or actual quote by Kreia that the technique came from the ancients?

That's a good question, it was possibly derived from the ancient sith, but I believe it cannot be learned because it is a fluke, just like Nihilus was, all a result of the Exile.

The thought bomb is more poweful than any ancient sith technique we have seen.

No it's not lol

Originally posted by Numan
The thought bomb is more poweful than any ancient sith technique we have seen.

Really? It failed to kill everybody on the planet, two kids and Bane survived. Sadow his blowing up stars trick however leaves none alive... Which also does more total damage. As for killing people, we don't know if it really does those things better, I mean Kaan believed they were powerful enough to survive the attack. Perhaps it wouldn't have hurt the ancient Sith at all, because they were stronger then that.

agreed

I meant to write as powerful.

Originally posted by Fishy
Okay, so then we still have the thought bomb of a possible original weapon, although I don't know if thats the case.. (not arguing it would put them above the ancients just saying its a nice invention)

Also Nihilus his eating ability coming from the ancients, I've heard this several times before, but I find it really strange. Kreia says the technique can not be learned and that there is no defense. No Jedi has ever heard of it, and if the Sith would have used it they would have eaten themselves. So where is the actual evidence or actual quote by Kreia that the technique came from the ancients?

I think the only clue to the Ancient Sith knowing/creating this technique is Ragnos's scepter who could drain the force from places then empty itself from the force too. But this coulden't drain the force powers from all things (like people, creatures etc) but only places and planets that had a strong aura with the force. So Nihilus might have had a more powerful, reinfined technique when using this ability, to feed himself.

Well draining the force, is that the same as literally removing it from existance like Nihilus did? I mean could the sceptre even if a million times more powerful trully destroy everything, not just humans but the very force itself? Could it destroy everything and leave nothing, literally? Does it trully posses power like that, because that is what Nihilus is, that is what Nihilus does.

If it was a million times more powerful, yes I think so. But no, no power could ever match Nihilus ability.

The scepter stole and stored the energy; it didn't consume or destroy it like Nihilus' attack did.

That's what I ment, it is similar, but it is not Nihilus technique. Mabey they're not, but I think they are pretty similar. 😆

You have to understand Nihilius' force eating ability was a pure FLUKE, just like he was. He and his power were created as a wound in the force, but it is unique in the sense that only the exile had the ability to stop it.