Darth Bane versus Exar Kun

Originally posted by Faunus
The scepter stole and stored the energy; it didn't consume or destroy it like Nihilus' attack did.

So, then why do many people assume that the technique was also known to the ancient Sith?

Because an ability like that, which WAS similiar to Ragnos' technique, can be assumed to be derived from the ancient sith.

But it wasn't really similar at all to quote Faunus

"The scepter stole and stored the energy; it didn't consume or destroy it like Nihilus' attack did."

Thats not at all like what Nihilus did.

Ah gotcha. It's still logical to assume that techniques such as these were derived from the ancient Sith. At the same time Nihilus' technique specifically was a fluke, and we can see it's a fluke from the events of KOTOR II, so we can't assume it comes from the ancient sith, since this technique doesn't exist in reality.

Agreed thats why I was saying what I said, is there any real reason to state that the technique was known by the Ancient Sith? And so far I have seen none, so i'm going to say that they didn't have a clue about it.

Right, Nihilus was a fluke which is why he could only have been killed by the person who technically created him and his unique ability, the exile.

Bane gets his assed tooled.

Originally posted by Fishy
Okay, so then we still have the thought bomb of a possible original weapon, although I don't know if thats the case.. (not arguing it would put them above the ancients just saying its a nice invention)

Also Nihilus his eating ability coming from the ancients, I've heard this several times before, but I find it really strange. Kreia says the technique can not be learned and that there is no defense. No Jedi has ever heard of it, and if the Sith would have used it they would have eaten themselves. So where is the actual evidence or actual quote by Kreia that the technique came from the ancients?

Firstly, Bane probably gets tooled. I have no doubt that he's a capable warrior (Considering his era and such), but Kun's wealth of ancient sith techniques and his ease at using them push things well into his corner.

About Nihilus, Traya does mention that the ability is of the ancient Sith, but Nihilus, because of his nature, uses it differently and cannot be emulated by her or others apparently. She also calls him the "pinnacle of the ancient Sith art" of whatever the hell it is he does. Keep in mind she attributes this to his nature, not his discipline or knowledge. He was a relatively young sith lord.

Originally posted by vpokdekjyafmidp
he is a pussy, therefore he probably sucks ass at fighting, therefore making him lose the fight

And you make useless posts, therefore you probably, no, definitely suck at debating, therefore making you a worthless debater. 😐

I say Kun.

Though, Bane didn't seem that inept. He just didn't really perform anything drastically amazing in the Jedi vs. Sith comics, other than that whole 'Sith Joining Power = Wall of Lightning Death Thing' and surviving the Thought Bomb.

I imagine in saber combat he's probably pretty good. He was all huge and had that symbiotic armor at the end. And he was a veteran of those wars.

Indeed. Where do you figure he ranks?

In saber combat? Hm. This is a tenative ranking, but I'd stuff him right above Malak and Dooku. I mean, anyone who was in that war knows how to swing their glowstick.

I swung a glowstick, once. Raves are pretty neat. 😐

OMFG... Rex noes teh Makaschu!

Run for the hills. Rex may be able to contend with NJO Luke, it depends on how good of a glowstick he has!!!11

I used to play with wooden swords in my room... untill I smashed celieng light 😛

Damn, I shattered the ceiling light with one of mine, but it wasn't wooden.

Yeah, I've busted a few things sword fighting. Never with a glowstick though...

But most 1 on 1 battles usually end up with a saber duel. that is how Exar fought Bass. That is how Exar fought Ulic. I bet a saber could probably block a blast from Kun's amulet. And Bane seemed by far the best in jedi versus sith I mean everybody was completely terrified of him. plus his armour was able to block a saber. I think Bane has this.

Well there is no real evidence for any of that, perhaps he would be more powerful perhaps he isn't. But there is nothing except for speculation that would make him more powerful, so really he isn't until you can prove otherwise. Which you can't.

And the blocking the blast with a lightsaber thing? Possible, but highly unlikely.