Marka ragnos runs the gauntlet

He gets 30 seconds in between each fight.

1) Yoda and Mace Windu.
2) Darth Bane and Lord Kaan.
3) Thon, Odun-Urr, Arca Jeth and Vodo-Siosk Bass.
4) Ulic Quel-Droma, Aleema and Exar Kun.
5) Freedon Nadd and Ludo Kressh.
6) Naga Sadow and Lord Simus (full body Simus).
7) DN Luke and DN Kyp Durron.
8) Darth Revan, Darth traya and The jedi exile.
9) 20 Taranteks and 5 fully grown Leviathans + 1 mutated rancor.
10) Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus.

All fights take place in temple training room apart from #9 which takes place in an open field in Ruusan.

I'm not even going to read this, just look at 10.. How can he win? Nihilus eats the force.

And how the hell should we know and or be able to place a guess on this? Not to mention that the list is completely off.

We know nothing about Simus, especially as a full bodied sith. I would like to say he gets stopped by DN Luke and Kyp but realistically he would take it all the way..

Well if Ragnos is as powerful as you guys say he is, surely he would have an artifact or power that would work as an instant kill just like Nihilus' force consumation. Surely then whoever uses their ability first would win. You guys go on about how Kun's amulet blast is unstoppable and what not so surely by your logic Kun would be able to beat Nihilus (if he uses his ability first).

No, Nihilus EATS the force, he literally DESTROYS it... No force attack could stop that...

Look I can see that English is not your first language but at least try and comprehend what I am saying. I am not saying that Ragnos stops Nihilus' attack. he just performs his own attack first and if his sith magics are as powerful as you say, he should be able to instantly kill him.

Nihilus would still eat the attack...

What if Ragnos' attack hits him before he senses it?

What if..

How do we know thats even possible? Even if he would, we have no idea what the attack would really do. Perhaps it would break Nihilus kill him completely or perhaps he would just absorb the attack... In huge what if situations giving great advantages to others Nihilus might die, or he might not because we have no idea how others would match against him in a real fight, or what there attacks would do.

Could Darth Traya instant kill Ragnos? Does anyone know how that power works. Fishy, I remember you said that you didn't think she could do it whenever she wanted to, care to explain?

Some people go on about how powerful a blast from Kun's amulet is, so could that instant kill Nihilus. because if so, kun has a shot against Nihilus.

He dies at 9.

Originally posted by kamikz
Could Darth Traya instant kill Ragnos? Does anyone know how that power works. Fishy, I remember you said that you didn't think she could do it whenever she wanted to, care to explain?

The theory is that Kreia used the Exile to channel the attack...

The corpses of the councillors are described as being without the force or something. Kreia herself was attacked by Nihilus and it stands to reason that she like the Sith assassins serving Nihilus and Sion would be able to drain the force from people, like Nihilus only in a much much smaller way. Not in a way big enough to cause the death of three of the greatest Jedi Masters of the era.

Perhaps the wound in her is greater then she has told us or we have seen. Unlikely though, I mean Atris would probably have noticed it, if not the other Jedi likely would have when she was on the planet, of course perhaps they misunderstood the entire situation and thought it was the Exile, i'm not sure on that... It just seems somewhat strange that they didn't notice if that was the case. But seeing as there is nothing to suggest that her hole is great enough to do what the Exile and Nihilus do the more logical conclusion would be that she used the Exile to power her attack.

Her bond with him allowed her to power him and to use his force powers for her own, it would not be far fetched for her to use the Exile his power to destroy the Jedi Masters with one swift attack. I'm not really sure on this, but I believe that she needed the exile to do the attack, or Nihilus. Another powerful wound in the force.

Some people go on about how powerful a blast from Kun's amulet is, so could that instant kill Nihilus. because if so, kun has a shot against Nihilus.

Two things

1.) It can be doubted that Kun his attack would even destroy a powerful Jedi Master with one shot

2.) Its very likely that Nihilus would just eat the attack as it comes towards him, because the attack is still part of the force, and Nihilus eats the force.

Nihilus eats the force but it doesn't happen automatically. He has to use it. It is an active ability. If he is caught offguard then surely he wouldn't be able to use it in time. Or even if he is prepared and ready but his opponent is just quicker to attack.

There is no evidence for that. The council describes they feel the power in the Exile just as he walks by, they feel he eats the force. The assassins serving Sion all have a wound in the force, far smaller then Nihilus though. They have this to weaken there enemy's when they are near.

And this isn't against an unprepared Nihillus, this is against Nihilus. In which case Nihilus would just eat them, and I doubt anybody would jump into an erea just shoot and hope to him... Thats not going to happen, besides if the enemy fights like that then Nihilus could have done it as well. The reason the Exile got to him on his ship, was because Nihilus was focused on Telos he wanted to eat that planet, he didn't even care about the Exile. In another fight however he probably would have.

When I made the point about catching Nihilus offguard, I wasn't using it for this duel but just to show that Nihilus is not invicible. But even in this fight when they are both prepared, Ragnos could just attack before him and if what you say about him is true, he would be able to instantly kill Nihilus.

Originally posted by Fishy
There is no evidence for that.

I have more evidence in this case then you do when you go on about how powerful Ragnos is, but lets not even get into that. the truth is there is plent of evidence and it is plain obvious. In that cutscen where he attacks Sion, he has to raise his hand to do so, and many people have said that he was force consuming him to a certain extent. this shows that it is not automatic.

Originally posted by Numan
I have more evidence in this case then you do when you go on about how powerful Ragnos is, but lets not even get into that. the truth is there is plent of evidence and it is plain obvious. In that cutscen where he attacks Sion, he has to raise his hand to do so, and many people have said that he was force consuming him to a certain extent. this shows that it is not automatic.

Perhaps not in a great enough scale no, but even then doesn't mean that he wasn't always doing it lik the assassins were... Also we don't know how long it would take to eat, perhaps he can just do it, doesn't require anything just him wishing to do it. And that is the most likely case. Still Nihilus can sense people in the force and there is no way a power like Ragnos would come close to him, Ragnos would be a great meal for him, he'd take it in a second.

You do know that force user can cloak themselves in the force.

They would still be part of the force... And we don't know if Ragnos could do that, or would in a fight. Look this is a useless debate, we don't know if Nihilus could die or not, we don't know if he could be hurt by force attacks or not and we sure as hell can't say he was outclassed if he was stabbed in the back by the most powerful of the most powerful when he wasn't looking. And we don't even know if it would help, seriously you have no idea, I have no idea.

This is just useless speculation.