Marka ragnos runs the gauntlet

I was just making a point that Nihilus isn't unstopable just because he can instant kill.

he reaches 6 and gets killed, the other ancient siths are no joke either...

Originally posted by Numan
He gets 30 seconds in between each fight.

1) Yoda and Mace Windu.
2) Darth Bane and Lord Kaan.
3) Thon, Odun-Urr, Arca Jeth and Vodo-Siosk Bass.
4) Ulic Quel-Droma, Aleema and Exar Kun.
5) Freedon Nadd and Ludo Kressh.
6) Naga Sadow and Lord Simus (full body Simus).
7) DN Luke and DN Kyp Durron.
8) Darth Revan, Darth traya and The jedi exile.
9) 20 Taranteks and 5 fully grown Leviathans + 1 mutated rancor.
10) Darth Sion and Darth Nihilus.

All fights take place in temple training room apart from #9 which takes place in an open field in Ruusan.

This is the worst lineup I've ever seen. Luke and Kyp over Sadow and Simus? WTF? Do you even know what you're talking about?

There is a deeper meaning in KOTOR II than anyone would understand. IF you think about it deeply enough, the exile is Nihilus' counterpart. They both are have the same ability, one is a superhero one is a villain. It is VERY logical to assume The Exile eats the force just as well, he just doesn't know how.

He stumbles on his ability if he goes dark. Nihilus, however, isn't really even human. The game seems to imply that he is partly of the Exile. The biggest clencher is that he dissolves after the battle into sparks of energy.

DN Luke is likely to be better than either Naga Sadow or Simus (before his duel with Ragnos) and I wanted to pair him up with the other best force user of the NJO.

This may be true but it's unlikely that he and DN Kyle could take Ragnos.

Originally posted by Numan
DN Luke is likely to be better than either Naga Sadow or Simus (before his duel with Ragnos) and I wanted to pair him up with the other best force user of the NJO.

I really don't think that's the case at all. I doubt that Luke can do the sickeningly amazing mass illusion/battle meditation Sadow pulled off, or create amulets that let people blow holes in temple walls with ease, or even survive as a head for over a hundred years. Luke doesn't compare to the ancient sith.

Perhaps perhaps not.

Originally posted by Wesker
I really don't think that's the case at all. I doubt that Luke can do the sickeningly amazing mass illusion/battle meditation Sadow pulled off, or create amulets that let people blow holes in temple walls with ease, or even survive as a head for over a hundred years. Luke doesn't compare to the ancient sith.

Aleema was able to create illusuions as good as those you fanboy. And wow he can create amulets. That only shows that Naga Sadow was a great alchemist.

Well, people are putting Luke up against centuries old sith who made their names by killing and backstabbing one another for quite some length of time. Their base of knowledge is the foundation upon which later sith lords became powerful. Just acquiring a -few- of their artifacts and trinkets can make a force user godly powerful. Luke isn't anywhere on that level, regardless of him absorbing a force push or swinging like he is a ceiling fan.

lol, but this is DN Luke not the tool Luke.

Originally posted by Numan
Aleema was able to create illusuions as good as those you fanboy. And wow he can create amulets. That only shows that Naga Sadow was a great alchemist.

And the point about the amulets is that the ancient sith have knowledge of the force far in excess of Luke "I inherited the jedi cuz they's all dead" Skywalker.

DN Luke has shown power beyond those of the ancient sith you fanboy.

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Originally posted by Numan
DN Luke has shown power beyond those of the ancient sith you fanboy.

No, he hasn't.

Originally posted by Numan
DN Luke has shown power beyond those of the ancient sith you fanboy.

Yes, let's suffix each post with "you fanboy" because you don't have anything else to say.

What did Luke demonstrate that is far and away greater than the Ancient Sith?

Naga Sadow's illusion/battle meditation was absolutely the single most sickening feat I've seen yet. He was able to simultaneously animate a massive fleet of thousands of ships, each dropping pods and then creating tangible illusions that even the JEDI at Coruscant could not stop or tell the difference.

He singlehandedly nearly took three planets while he was casually dreaming up "invincible" armies in his meditation sphere. Yeah, these are armies that broke through the lines on Cinnagar, was about to capture the Republic capital of Coruscant (how often does that happen?) and made Empress Teta practically shit in her pants. What exactly has Luke done to compare?

Naga Sadow is a great alchemist. Okay, and that's a knock against him how? Because Sith Alchemy and Sith Magic don't apply in a duel right? Is that why Aleema tried to take out Kun with Sith Magic, yet Kun WTFpwned her with more Sith Magic?

And guess who are the masters of Sith Magic? Yep, that's right, Lord Simus and Naga Sadow. Way to set yourself up for that.

Last I checked, those amulets can fire blasts, can manipulate people, and those wielders have shown the ability to decimate buildings, statues, giant structures with apparent ease. Ludo Kressh anyone? He easily shatters a Sith Sword and crushes giant statues with a wave of his arm/hand.

It's funny how you decide to just ignore feats because "zOMG they are alchemy."

If I wanted to bring up real alchemy, I'd talk about how Sadow tinkered with his Massassi, or that he created sith creatures of incredible strength and lifespan, or that he created superweapons like his Ship that weaklings like Aleema could use to blow up stars. And guess who was the stronger Sith Magician of his era? Yep, that's right, Lord Simus.

No, Lord Simus and Naga Sadow are no way no how uber. I mean, denial is just a river in Egypt, after all.

Damn. IllustriPwn3d.

Agreed.

pwned