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h1a8 Senior Member

greatest fighter in the marvel and d.c. universe

Out of all the non-meta humans (include deathstroke, wolverine, and deadpool though) in the marvel and d.c universe, who would be the victor in a fighting tournament? Remember to take away any healing factor and all weapons (including wolverine's claws, captain america's shield, batman's belt and costume, etc.) before the tournament.

Pepito Senior Member

Probably Batman, Wolverine (street fighting), Karate Kid or Shang Chi (pure martial arts)

GODSCRIBE Senior Member

Wolverine still has his adamantium skeleton right? If so, then he wins. Him or Captain America, with Batman in a close 3rd.

Marcus4600 Restricted

There's 4 that are at the top, and in this order more than likely. Captain America, Batman, Shang Chi, and Iron Fist. I'd say Cap takes number one though.

Dizzle KMC Authority!!!

In the universes? Karate Kid, easily, followed by Batman 1 Million, then Mantis and Gamora, then probably Karnak...

brainchild81 Privateer

Karate Kid and those like him shouldn't be allowed. Too Dragon Ball Z like. He might as well be a meta. The winner would either be Cap, Taskmaster, Shiva, Shang Chi, Richard Dragon, Black Panther, or Batgirl.

Draco69 Snarky Slytherin

Batgirl is superior to Shiva now. Hell, she just killed the mofo easily. And now Cassie's gone bad. Such a waste...

The Ion Senior Member

Val Armorr was such a beast. I'd love to see him just shred Batman to pieces.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

hard to see him beating bats 1M though. interesting i never saw mention of daredevil though he has beaten or stalemated almost everyone mentioned above . . .

i'd throw in one more just for kicks. in straight h2h CONAN is a tough mutha . . .!

jrodslam Senior Member

Originally posted by leonidas
interesting i never saw mention of daredevil though he has beaten or stalemated almost everyone mentioned above . . .

I was thinking the same thing. 🙁

The Ion Senior Member

Originally posted by leonidas
hard to see him beating bats 1M though.

Val? Well maybe not since Bats knows or should know everything Val does and much more. Val's feats are insane though. Stalemating Nemesis Kid, who slaughtered Superboy, stalemating Flash level speedsters, etc.

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by jrodslam
I was thinking the same thing. 🙁

DD has a bit of an unfair advantage though(Sounds funny hearing someone say that about a blind man😆 ), that's why I didn't list him. He'd kick the asses of many on the list though, if not all.

Comicbook_kid Crom's champion

Hell yeah...Conan is damn hard to beat in H2H!!! He would definately be up there towards the top of the list!!! But, I would lean towards either Shang-chi or Ironfist...but this is a tough decision...of course, Batman is waaaay up there too.

Dizzle KMC Authority!!!

Originally posted by brainchild81
Karate Kid and those like him shouldn't be allowed. Too Dragon Ball Z like. He might as well be a meta. The winner would either be Cap, Taskmaster, Shiva, Shang Chi, Richard Dragon, Black Panther, or Batgirl.

Hey, he's still human. Gamora and Karnak are enhanced, (Karnak's inhuman) but other than that, the rest are all normal human. They're just insanely good at martial arts. And the thread is for the best in the universe. Champion SHOULD take all of them to school anyway, but he's never written as much of a martial artist at all, much less a truly stellar one.

Limited to "realistic" people, Batgirl dominates. Each of Marvel's contenders have an embarassing loss or two that really knocks em down in my book. And I still have yet to see really good examples of Cap fighting well, shieldless. (he's obviously good, but how good? He hasn't done enough without his shield to really place him, and definitely not enough to name him as better than Batgirl)

brainchild81 Privateer

Didn't she get beat up by Joker?

spetznaz Senior Fanboy Killer

Originally posted by brainchild81
Didn't she get beat up by Joker?

There is Barbara Gordon Batgirl ....now Oracle.
Then there is Cassandra Cain Batgirl, who is basically Bruce Lee's wetdream and dodges bullets point blank (and if she is 'peak human' then the human race must have gotten a serious upgrade).

The Joker couldn't touch Cassie, but he crippled Babs.

JOE NUNEZ Duck Butt Donaldo

I have these guys in this order 1 captain america 2 daredevil 3 batman 4 black panther

thesilverspider Senior Member

Mantis would smoke Batgirl.............✅

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by spetznaz
There is Barbara Gordon Batgirl ....now Oracle.
Then there is Cassandra Cain Batgirl, who is basically Bruce Lee's wetdream and dodges bullets point blank (and if she is 'peak human' then the human race must have gotten a serious upgrade).
The Joker couldn't touch Cassie, but he crippled Babs.

I'm gonna shop around about that. I heard he beat the mess outta Cass

Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
I have these guys in this order 1 captain america 2 daredevil 3 batman 4 black panther

BP'd beat Batman up worse than Cap would.

Juntai Divine Vengeance

Originally posted by spetznaz
There is Barbara Gordon Batgirl ....now Oracle.
Then there is Cassandra Cain Batgirl, who is basically Bruce Lee's wetdream and dodges bullets point blank (and if she is 'peak human' then the human race must have gotten a serious upgrade).
The Joker couldn't touch Cassie, but he crippled Babs.

Joker beat both of them.

Cassie couldn't read his body language, because it doesn't make sense, so beat the holy shit out of her.