greatest fighter in the marvel and d.c. universe

Thanks man. Cap would beat the hell out of Joker, w/or without the serum, same way he did Crossbones. Shield or no shield.

Mantis is The One

1. She is a master of a fighting form that took thousands of years to perfect.

2. She is a master of nearly all alien and human pressure points. She can touch almost any place on the body to induce damage or render one helpless.

3. She is in total control of her body. Many may not know the profoundness of that statement. Let me clarify.
Her mind and body are one. She has what we call The Glow in martial arts.

All of those things is why she can battle superpowered beings such as Thor. I know of no other non-super powered being that is one this level (without using PIS).

Originally posted by h1a8
I think mantis is probably the one.
She is a master of a fighting form that took thousands of years to perfect.
She is a master of nearly all alien and human pressure points. She can touch almost any place on the body to induce damage or render one helpless.
She is in total control of her body. Many may not know the profoundness of my last statement. Let me clarify.
Her mind and body are one. She has what we called the glow in martial arts.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Like Bruce Leroy? Can she beat up Sho'nuff?

she would make him say "You're the master!"

howbout iron man? his suit can act as just a shield w/o the weapons.