Akuma vs. Sephiroth

Originally posted by SHM
1. He can't instantly destroy the planet, but he can instantly summon the Negative Lifestream to attack anyone he wants. Like he made it "attack" the planet, in the form of tendrils.
Did you watch AC?

2. Yeah, Seph cannot TK people.

Did you play FFVII?

About intangibility, do you know a place where I can watch(or read the explanation about) the Asura Senku? Because I don't remember him doing that, and in all debates about Akuma that I had in my life, no one ever said he can turn intangible. This is the first time I'm hearing this.

3. Sooner or later, Akuma will be tired. Principally if Seph summons warriors in the same level of Kadaj or Yazoo or Loz, again, again and again. And even if Akuma defeat them easily, they will help Seph, because of the distraction factor.

About Seph's body, I already explained this in another thread. Kadaj(a spirit body) drunk the Jenova cells inside the box, and they multiplyed and shapeshifted in Seph's appearance.
Seph' body in the movie and Jenova's body in FFVII are exactly the same: A body composed of 100% J-cells.

4. Read the first paragraph of answer number 3.

Seriously, if Sephiroth is feeling lazy, he turns intangible with a thought and create his super barrier(above city-busting attacks) with another thought(or vice-versa), summon the Negative Lifestream and destroy Akuma, or the entire planet.

[quote=Terryc250]Sephiroth is on a whole different level then Gouki, he stomps him

Of course.

Akuma is a martial artist/demon, with power to destroy an island and splitt a mountain. Sephiroth is basically the evolution of an alien parasite, with power to use a planet to travel the universe and destroy other planets(the explanation of why he never did that, is because he "weakened" himself to fight against a weaker enemy(Cloud), and lost to his own arrogance... Exactly what happened with Pyron, for example).

Yeah I agree with you, Sephiroth is in a completely different level than Akuma. That's obvious. [/QUOTE] 1. Can't remember that part. Prove it.

2. Kay, he has some limited TK, I admit that. But Gouki is strong enough to resist most likely, and can avoid it altogether with Asura Senku. Oh, and he did not TK the top of the Shinra building, no real proof of that.

3. Then those people have poor knowledge on Gouki. Go youtube any SF video with Gouki, he is shown to be intangible while using it, and floats across the ground. Also, his Misogi is a tele as well, and if it hit Seph would debilitate him.

4. I still don't think he could instantly summon powerful people like Loz, Yazoo, or Kadaj instantly, those weak ass monsters sure, but not them. Gouki can kill most of them with a powered up Gou Hadouken.

5. A'ight, makes sense.

6. What is stopping Gouki from going in the barrier via Asura Senku? Exactly.

7. Don't compare Pyron and Sephiroth, hell don't even compare Sephiroth with Demitri(Guy who beat weakened Pyron) either. Gouki constantly weakens his power, and WINS.

EDIT: Btw, I do think Seph wins, just not in a stomp.

Akuma is just a martial artist he is NO DEMON, hes a martial artist who became obsessed with the dark hadou, and followed the path of murderous intent, he is still a human, not a demon.

V2D, in AC Seph summons the Lifestream and speaks with Cloud. After that, they "fly" against each other, and their swords clash. The scene changes and we can see the tendrils of Negative Lifestream descending.

About his TK, he was doing it with all Avalanche. And it wasn't even his full TK powers, because he was using part of his mental powers to hold back the most powerful spell in the world.
And you said Gouki is strong enough to resist Seph's TK... Can you prove it?

About the Asura Senku and Sephiroth's barrier:

Originally posted by The Maiden Who Travels the Planet
Even as Cloud and the others fought to find a way to break into the Northern Crater on the surface, she continued to travel through the Lifestream, trying to find some tear in Sephiroth's barrier or some opening that would let her free the suppressed Holy. But she found none. Having fully unveiled Jenova's powers, Sephiroth was firmly protecting the Crater that was going to become his cocoon, especially from any forms of approach by the Lifestream. By doing so, he could avoid the will of the Planet that had grown wary of Jenova for all these years and, hide from the eyes of the Weapons that were born to expel any foreign bodies from the Planet.

Like you can see, not even the souls of the Lifestream(like Aerith) can go through his barrier. Akuma's intangibility means nothing.

And I think Sephiroth and Pyron are a good comparison, because their situations are the same. Both weakened themselves to fight weaker enemies and lost because of that.

Seph create the barrier and/or immobilize Akuma with TK, summons the Lifestream, destroy the world, and The End.

Akuma is not in his level, really.

Originally posted by SHM
V2D, in AC Seph summons the Lifestream and speaks with Cloud. After that, they "fly" against each other, and their swords clash. The scene changes and we can see the tendrils of Negative Lifestream descending.

About his TK, he was doing it with all Avalanche. And it wasn't even his full TK powers, because he was using part of his mental powers to hold back the most powerful spell in the world.
And you said Gouki is strong enough to resist Seph's TK... Can you prove it?

About the Asura Senku and Sephiroth's barrier:

[quote=The Maiden Who Travels the Planet]Even as Cloud and the others fought to find a way to break into the Northern Crater on the surface, she continued to travel through the Lifestream, trying to find some tear in Sephiroth's barrier or some opening that would let her free the suppressed Holy. But she found none. Having fully unveiled Jenova's powers, Sephiroth was firmly protecting the Crater that was going to become his cocoon, especially from any forms of approach by the Lifestream. By doing so, he could avoid the will of the Planet that had grown wary of Jenova for all these years and, hide from the eyes of the Weapons that were born to expel any foreign bodies from the Planet.

Like you can see, not even the souls of the Lifestream(like Aerith) can go through his barrier. Akuma's intangibility means nothing.

And I think Sephiroth and Pyron are a good comparison, because their situations are the same. Both weakened themselves to fight weaker enemies and lost because of that.

Seph create the barrier and/or immobilize Akuma with TK, summons the Lifestream, destroy the world, and The End.

Akuma is not in his level, really. [/QUOTE] 1. Kay, I will take your word for it. I'm too fvckin lazy to search Youtube right now.

2. Hold on right there, it was his WILL that was holding back Holy, not his TK, Seph is stated to have a very strong will, and in that state(in the crystal), he could do things from across the globe by willing it. Also, Asura Senku can still avoid it.

3. Too bad the Lifestream(which is perty much what she was) is not intangible, no proof Asura Senku will not work.

4. No, Seph was just arrogant, Pyron fvcked himself over in every way.

I. He was also arrogant.

II. Demitri wields powerful magic, which is second only to the power of love and friendship(LOL) in terms of plot powers, and defies scientific powers like Pyron's cosmic power.

III. Pyron LITERALLY weakened his body before fighting the Darkstalkers to "conform to terrestrial(planetary) combat, he pretty much became a super uberfied human.

There is a big difference between the situations.

5. Barrier and TK can be avoided via Asura Senku like I said, and he cannot instantly destroy the world.

6. I disagree, they are very close in terms of combat.

V2D, TK and willpower are connected. It's all about mental strength. Seph wasn't using his full mental strength because of Holy.

And Asura Senku can't avoid the barrier and TK, that's pure speculation. How you know his intangibility can penetrate a magic barrier? Why you believe his TK will not work on an intangible body(TK is not a physical attack, so intangibility means nothing)?

What we have here, is a character with two abilities(TK and magic barrier), vs another character who, from what I know, never showed resistence against these abilities or a way of overcoming them.

TK and/or magic barrier and/or Negative Lifestream/magic spells. This is all Seph needs to win.

Originally posted by Terryc250

rip Gouki weep

Lmao, I'm so profiling that. I'm also putting it in Sephiroth's respect thread. 313

Originally posted by SHM
V2D, TK and willpower are connected. It's all about mental strength. Seph wasn't using his full mental strength because of Holy.

And Asura Senku can't avoid the barrier and TK, that's pure speculation. How you know his intangibility can penetrate a [B]magic barrier? Why you believe his TK will not work on an intangible body(TK is not a physical attack, so intangibility means nothing)?

What we have here, is a character with two abilities(TK and magic barrier), vs another character who, from what I know, never showed resistence against these abilities or a way of overcoming them.

TK and/or magic barrier and/or Negative Lifestream/magic spells. This is all Seph needs to win. [/B]

2. TK is an attack to manipulate the PHYSICAL realm. Asura Senku goes thru things, why won't it go thru a barrier? And also, what will TK do to an intangible body? Throw him thru anything it touches.

3. Kay. Gouki has Shun Goku Satsu, which if it hits, WILL one shot Seph.

4. Nope.

Shun Goku Satsu is slow and doesnt even go far, Akuma cant even dream of hitting sephiroth with that, Seph flies around with a 7 foot sword that he swings around like it weighs as much as a feather

Originally posted by Terryc250
Shun Goku Satsu is slow and doesnt even go far, Akuma cant even dream of hitting sephiroth with that, Seph flies around with a 7 foot sword that he swings around like it weighs as much as a feather

Misogi is an instant attack, Gouki teles above his opponent and gives a powerful thundering(literally) chop to the opponent. Seph could not shrug this off easily

Originally posted by Terryc250
Sephiroth has an attack where he swings his sword really fast and cuts off his opponents head, Gouki cant shrug that off easily either.

Sephiroth whips Akuma with his hair, catches Akuma in the eyes with it, causing him to go blind. Sephiroh's long hair FTW 😛

His hair is like........

GODLY!!!!!

No, phail. Gouki's hair made it into a Mortal Kombat game, can Seph say the same? No.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Is that really the best you can muster? Gouki is fast enough to travel landmasses quickly with Asura Senku, which also makes him intangible.

Originally posted by Terryc250
Show me when Gouki has travelled more then 20 feet with that? Sephiroth with his arm extended with his sword is about 10 feet already lol

Originally posted by Sol Valentine
His hair is like........

GODLY!!!!!

Yeah it is....he never washes it but it's so clean it gleams 😛