Manchester Black vs. Prof. Xavier

Started by jasofisc5 pages

such as?

Never seen any DC telepath surfing the Astral plane or doing battle on it. Not to mention thanks to X-Man Xavier should be able to manifest his astral armor and weapons in the real world.

Originally posted by Diunic
Xavier is not a very powerful telepath for DC's patterns. He needs machines to amplify his power while MM can connect his mind with almost the entire planet without any tech help.
Xavier easily connected himself to the whole people of the Skrull and channeled all their combined feelings past Galactus's mental shields into his mind...without Cerabro/a.

Xavier connected himself with the whole population of a Shiar planet and directed all the mental energy into a psychic blast, that defeated Ego...without Cerebro/a.

Since there are Phoenix and her children + Franklin Richards, Xavier is perhaps no longer the strongest telepath on Marvel earth, but he is certainly still the most powerful (combination of strength, experience and talent).

Btw, the only time we saw Xavier going all out and using his full potential, though admittedly unwillingly, ended with the creation of Onslaught. Neither Jean, Cable, Franklin or Nate were able to do anything against his telepathy.

Does Manchester Black have any comparable feats at his disposal?

He mind controlled Superman, so that should put him in the top tier.......

I won't spoke with marvel fanboys who doesn't read DC or only does that sometimes cause I read the both. If you never saw a DC telepath in a Astral Plane you have to much to learn. And of course you can't want to see a DC telepath in a Marvel like astral plane. Are different universes. Even Supes who is no telepath fought in a Astral Plane more than once.

Using T-VO, the cable programmer!!

Originally posted by Diunic
I won't spoke with marvel fanboys who doesn't read DC or only does that sometimes cause I read the both. If you never saw a DC telepath in a Astral Plane you have to much to learn. And of course you can't want to see a DC telepath in a Marvel like astral plane. Are different universes. Even Supes who is no telepath fought in a Astral Plane more than once.

??? I understood some of that.

Anywho you really haven't said anything to qaulify your claims. You simply said. "DC telepaths are the Uberest any one who disagrees doesn't read enough comics." So you really aren't in a very good position yourself.

Originally posted by Warmonger
??? I understood some of that.

Anywho you really haven't said anything to qaulify your claims. You simply said. "DC telepaths are the Uberest any one who disagrees doesn't read enough comics." So you really aren't in a very good position yourself.

Originally posted by Diunic
I won't spoke with marvel fanboys who doesn't read DC or only does that sometimes cause I read the both. If you never saw a DC telepath in a Astral Plane you have to much to learn. And of course you can't want to see a DC telepath in a Marvel like astral plane. Are different universes. Even Supes who is no telepath fought in a Astral Plane more than once.
1) Isn't refusing to debate with someone who just expressed his point of view a little childish, especially in a debating forum? 🤨

2)In my last post i directly reacted to your comment about MM being able to connect himself to a whole planet, while Prof. X would need amplifying machines...and i proved you wrong, which by the way is evidence, that you are not as well informed about Charles and Marvel as you think you are.

3) It's true, that it is difficult to compare two universes in which some things tend to work differently, such as tp.
But think about it: When in DC the astral plane is so easy to reach, that it is possible for even a nontelepath to gain access to it, what can a telepath, coming from a universe where this is not possible, do in a DC astral plain?!
So Marvel universe might be the telepathic equivalent to Krypton, while DC is the telepathic equivalent to earth. Perhaps a rather drastic example, but i think it perfectly shows what i want to express, even when the dimensions are admittedly a little off scale.

Originally posted by wannabe
1) Isn't refusing to debate with someone who just expressed his point of view a little childish, especially in a debating forum? 🤨

2)In my last post i directly reacted to your comment about MM being able to connect himself to a whole planet, while Prof. X would need amplifying machines...and i proved you wrong, which by the way is evidence, that you are not as well informed about Charles and Marvel as you think you are.

3) It's true, that it is difficult to compare two universes in which some things tend to work differently, such as tp.
But think about it: When in DC the astral plane is so easy to reach, that it is possible for even a nontelepath to gain access to it, what can a telepath, coming from a universe where this is not possible, do in a DC astral plain?!
So Marvel universe might be the telepathic equivalent to Krypton, while DC is the telepathic equivalent to earth. Perhaps a rather drastic example, but i think it perfectly shows what i want to express, even when the dimensions are admittedly a little off scale.

Superman is a telepath/telekinetic though[Pre and Post Crisis.]. It's in his powerset, though manifests in oddball ways.
You'll notice that even before getting his solar powers, Connor, from Superman's DNA, has TK, for example.
If you go back to the Byrne issues, they also talk about his telekinetic field and how he extends it over things in his grasp so they are protected.

can an MU telepath controll a whole galaxy with his brain like Fate did or contact or at least be in contact with every member of the universe like MM?

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman is a telepath/telekinetic though[Pre and Post Crisis.]. It's in his powerset, though manifests in oddball ways.
You'll notice that even before getting his solar powers, Connor, from Superman's DNA, has TK, for example.
If you go back to the Byrne issues, they also talk about his telekinetic field and how he extends it over things in his grasp so they are protected.
WOW!!! Is there anything Supes can not do??? 🙄
However, that even proves, that Diunic, to whom i reacted, is not just not well informed about Marvel, but not as well informed about DC as he thinks as well.

Originally posted by Mider
can an MU telepath controll a whole galaxy with his brain like Fate did or contact or at least be in contact with every member of the universe like MM?
MAAAN, to the whole universe!? To millions of galaxies with millions of worlds with billions of people?!
Not even Phoenix or any of the cosmics in Marvel did such a thing. Logically MM should be absolutely UNBEATABLE in the DC universe.

However, if telepathy is equally difficult to perform in both universes, if MM did the things you said, and if MB is indeed in MM's league, than I, a Charles Xavier fan, admit, that the Prof will be horribly beaten by MB.

(*Sigh*...and i thought it a Marvel trait to sometimes give it's characters absolutely ridiculous feats)

it wasnt MM who controlled a galaxy it was Dr Fate MM didnt controll the universe only connected with it or something.

Originally posted by wannabe
MAAAN, to the whole universe!? To millions of galaxies with millions of worlds with billions of people?!
Not even Phoenix or any of the cosmics in Marvel did such a thing. Logically MM should be absolutely [B]UNBEATABLE
in the DC universe.

However, if telepathy is equally difficult to perform in both universes, if MM did the things you said, and if MB is indeed in MM's league, than I, a Charles Xavier fan, admit, that the Prof will be horribly beaten by MB.

(*Sigh*...and i thought it a Marvel trait to sometimes give it's characters absolutely ridiculous feats) [/B]

Not at all, both universes share ridiculous, illogical feats.

MAAAN, to the whole universe!? To millions of galaxies with millions of worlds with billions of people?!
Not even Phoenix or any of the cosmics in Marvel did such a thing. Logically MM should be absolutely UNBEATABLE in the DC universe.

However, if telepathy is equally difficult to perform in both universes, if MM did the things you said, and if MB is indeed in MM's league, than I, a Charles Xavier fan, admit, that the Prof will be horribly beaten by MB.

(*Sigh*...and i thought it a Marvel trait to sometimes give it's characters absolutely ridiculous feats)

But didn't he said fate.....cause i've never seen manhunter did such a thing.

Originally posted by wannabe
WOW!!! Is there anything Supes [B]can not do??? 🙄 [/B]
Not a lot... the current one can't run back and forth through time at will, like he did Pre Crisis, but I doubt it's far off. Superman's a beast.

Originally posted by Juntai
Superman is a telepath/telekinetic though[Pre and Post Crisis.]. It's in his powerset, though manifests in oddball ways.
You'll notice that even before getting his solar powers, Connor, from Superman's DNA, has TK, for example.
If you go back to the Byrne issues, they also talk about his telekinetic field and how he extends it over things in his grasp so they are protected.

Superman's a telepath???? TK perhaps but telepath?

The closest resembling that would be TVO but that's not actual telepathy.

Originally posted by Mider
it wasnt MM who controlled a galaxy it was Dr Fate MM didnt controll the universe only connected with it or something.
I understood that! But what does it matter?
Imagine what kind of psionic energy would be necessary to stretch your mind over the whole universe and then to connect yourself to all people!!!
Just like i said, not even Phoenix or any of the cosmics ever did that in Marvel. 🙄

why you rolling your eyes? if you dont mind me asking