Originally posted by King_Mungi
So was I, yet I got yelled at. Leave it to stormfront and Scoobs to debate.
.....Come on !!!!
I wouldn't usually but Sf's argument is so full of holes cant help but comment. Plus ( I'm not trying to argue with you Km ) what you were doing was pointing out what characters full showings are capable of, i'm pointing out the blatantly obvious flaws within his tactics and his mis-information.
Originally posted by grey fox
.....Come on !!!!I wouldn't usually but Sf's argument is so full of holes cant help but comment. Plus ( I'm not trying to argue with you Km ) what you were doing was pointing out what characters full showings are capable of, i'm pointing out the blatantly obvious flaws within his tactics and his mis-information.
Your not even suppose to comment, stormfront needs to iron out some points but it is still possible for him to do it. Also no I pointed out a comment that Aurora didn't have super reflexes, and when I showed scans she did I got yelled at. I never EVER made comment about the actual battle plans, just commented on what the people actually could do and yet I still got yelled at. I can point out flaws in Scoobs tactics, but I won't since it's up to stormfront.
Originally posted by grey fox
Ok ,ok i wont comment anymore. It's just all this stupid crap over whether a blast is bio-electric or not is annoying......
Well Feedback's bio-electric attacks were said to be different than Guardian's electromagnetic attacks. So it's not crap, let stormfront talk it out.
Originally posted by grey fox
...and they are just as i pointed out.Bio is from the body, electromagnetic is man-made. Problem solved.
Not entirely, Guardian doesn't make it he actually channels the electromagnetic field already in place. The suit just harnasses, then later as a cyborg he made EM energy on his own. It's *** for tat, but depends on the character.
Originally posted by grey fox
Bio blasts can be one of two things , chemical blasts or electrical blasts. The scan shows an electrical blast . Therefore it is a Bio-electric blast....and how is storm suddenly immune to electricity hmm ?
storm has been resistant, almost immune to electricity her whole life. she has never been fully knocked out by anything even remotely close to electricity...well at least I'm almost positive she hasn't. considering she can manipulate electricity, absorb it, and is almost immune to it, then she wouldn't have been knocked out by a bio-blast if it were electrical.
i'd like a little clarity in regards to scoob's offense. charcoal and hermod are hiding and so not doing much. what are ts and im doing after the optic blast and how are you defending it scoob? scoob is all defense it seems. just wondering what your attack plans are . . .
he said that he's going to blast me, but he hasn't answered how he will find me to blast, and it's not even certain that the blast would affect me because i have two forcefields around each of my characters.
Originally posted by stormfront13
you can't prove that the boi-blast is electrical either
She has electrical powers, she calls it a bio blast because either it's bio-electricity or it's designed to effect bio-electricity
If she only has electrical powers what exactly do you think it is?
Originally posted by stormfront13
if they move, the field moves with them...i've already said this.
So you're claiming an electrical field can exist when completely cut off from it's power supply?
Originally posted by stormfront13
prove it won't work.
prove that it does.... i've already given plenty examples of Iron Man using and being unaffected by electrical and electromagnetic attacks
Originally posted by stormfront13
no he's not, because he isn't using the same amount of power
he isn't using the same amount of power because he can't reach the same level of power as Cyclops.... he's still overloading his own optic blast capability and it will still drain his energy
Originally posted by stormfront13
hw could he see the team? honestly, you haven't provided anything to say he could.
Yes i have.
I've pointed out the vast differences in human and Asgardian physiology and that the Asgardians have greatly superior resistance to electricity (which is exactly what your "bio-blast" is)
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Originally posted by Blair Wind
she always has been hasnt she? I mean shes immune to her powers......right? 😕
no.... Cyclops's once asked Xavier that exact question when they had crashed near the north pole. Xavier told him that it may have been the most stupid thing Cyclops had ever said.... i have the comic.... i'll scan it tomorrow
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Originally posted by leonidas
i'd like a little clarity in regards to scoob's offense. charcoal and hermod are hiding and so not doing much. what are ts and im doing after the optic blast and how are you defending it scoob? scoob is all defense it seems. just wondering what your attack plans are . . .
Yeah, i posted that way back at the start
TS and IM open up with a continual blasting pattern while CC and Hermod stay behind them for cover
Once line of sight is established (which it will be as the invisibility thing definitely wont work on Iron Man and is extremely doubtful on the rest of my team) hitting targets will get a lot easier
Mimic will be severely drained from his strenuous overloading of the optic blast leaving him a sitting duck for a few pulse bolts
Hermod is fairly out of his element as everyone else can fly, so he'll be finding and throwing debris at the opposition focusing on Aurora ... mainly for distraction but a train door thrown at mach speeds can definitely KO some of SF's guys
Charcoal will be going for Phantazia, as IM will tell him to, as he is effectively invulnerable to her electrical fields and he can do whatever he wants to her
TS will be making sure Mimic stays down by crushing his skull
Iron Man will take on Vindicator ..... if he doesn't beat her by the time Mimic is dead then an enchanted mace to the back of the head should give them the win
If Aurora and Hermod are still messing about at this point then a crossfire from IM, TS and CC will quickly "subdue" her
Originally posted by Scoobless
She has electrical powers, she calls it a bio blast because either it's bio-electricity or it's designed to effect bio-electricityIf she only has electrical powers what exactly do you think it is?
she doesn't only have purely electrical powers. how does affecting electricity turn you invisible. yes, she manipulates em fields, but the outcome of that power is different. if her powers were purely electrical she wouldn't have been able to defeat storm.
So you're claiming an electrical field can exist when completely cut off from it's power supply?
how is it getting cut off from it's power supply? you haven't provided anything to say it would be.
prove that it does.... i've already given plenty examples of Iron Man using and being unneffected by electrical and electromagnetic attacks
and I'll say it again, he's not getting attacked with anything electrical or electromagnetic.
he can't reach the same level of power as Cyclops
why wouldn't he be able to when he's being powered up? there's no reason he couldn't
he's still overloading his own optic blast capability and it will still drain his energy
actually no, when he used that much energy, it was the amount of energy that a star had, the amount of power I'm using isn't even close to what I'm using. combine that with the superhuman durability and endurance as well as his healing factor and he won't be overloaded at all
I've pointed out the vast differences in human and Asgardian physiology and that the Asgardians have greatly superior resistance to electricity (which is exactly what your "bio-blast" is)
yes, they are so different but there is no reason that they can see invisible opponents, asgardians are affected by invisible woman. and the bio-blast isn't electricity either..her powers aren't fully electrical.
no.... Cyclops's once asked Xavier that exact question when they had crashed near the north pole. Xavier told him that it may have been the most stupid thing Cyclops had ever said.... i have the comic.... I'll scan it tomorrow
yeah, please do because that is the stupidest thing i have ever heard. it's basic common knowledge that storm is very resistant verging on immune to the affects of weather.
TS and IM open up with a continual blasting pattern while CC and Hermod stay behind them for cover
both TS and IM won't be able to see any of my team. phantazia and aurora fly over and engage charcoal and hermod in battle.
Once line of sight is established (which it will be as the invisibility thing definitely wont work on Iron Man and is extremely doubtful on the rest of my team) hitting targets will get a lot easier
honestly, why would an asgardian be able to see someone invisible? because they have different anatomy? yeah, so do animals but do you also think they can see something that is invisible? and there's really no reason that it wouldn't work on iron-man because he isn't getting attacked by anything electrical.
Mimic will be severely drained from his strenuous overloading of the optic blast leaving him a sitting duck for a few pulse bolts
Ive already explained why he wouldn't be drained
Hermod is fairly out of his element as everyone else can fly, so he'll be finding and throwing debris at the opposition focusing on Aurora ... mainly for distraction but a train door thrown at mach speeds can definitely KO some of SF's guys
hermod won't know where to throw any of the debris to hit aurora, and she'll easily be able to dodge anything.
Charcoal will be going for Phantazia, as IM will tell him to, as he is effectively invulnerable to her electrical fields and he can do whatever he wants to her
phantazia also goes after charcoal. she's invisible so he won't know where to attack so she just basically throws him off of the train by a force-field.
TS will be making sure Mimic stays down by crushing his skull
which would have no absolute way of happening as mimic is invisible, moves at mach speeds, is inside two force-fields, and is made of metal.
look, charcoal and hermod are taken out in the first 2 minutes. hermod is just hit multiple times by concussive blasts which he would have a very hard time dodging because they move at the speed of light, and charcoal is thrown off the train by a force-field. TS and IM can't take all my characters at once when they are invisible, and have two powerful force-fields around them. and the force-fields arn;t weak, they are like magneto's which has taken hits from minjor.
and even if the whole invisibility thing doesn't work both vindicator and aurora and mimic can blind them.
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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
IIRC Her lightning was redirected at her by Magneto and when she was hit she injured.
yes, the power was enhanced though and she wasn';t knocked out, just severly hurt. her skin was literally burning. she's never been fully knocked out by electricity, so how could phantazias bio-blast be very electrical if it knocked storm out in one hit?