Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
Roughly, 90% of it was
Thats a fairly large number 90% are you sure of that.......................cuz 42.6% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
I sincerely doubt that 90% of slavery is due to white slavers. White slavers has more documentation then black slavers however black slavers don't write about it now do they🙂
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I am a little confused about the title of this thread ''black slavery/white people'' ?Not all slavery has been implemented by white people on black people.
Also - Social Sciences are ALL about the so called ''race''. Sociaology is all about gender, 'race' and class - From Eurocentralisation to Slavery - its all Sociology.
Confused? I'll explain.
The titled this thread is "Black Slavery / White People" because that was the topic I wanted to generally discuss. Black Slavery in North America. And who were the main characters in this play "black slaves and white people" I know there was slavery all around the world and different times till today, but that's not what my thread is about. It doesn't read "Slavery" If that were the case then you'd have a point. But I narrowed it down.
And I never mentioned anything about "all slavery" being an implemented by whites. I will say that probably , during those times, practically every black slave owner in the U.S was a white person.
And sure forced bondage is a social issue but I'd rather look at it from a historical perspective.
Originally posted by soleran30
Yeah know its just something at the end of the day to tie to whites vs blacks. I certainly don't hear the outcry from black people screaming about black slave owners.
You lost me. Exactly what is just something at the end of the day to tie whites vs black?
What. The mention of Black slavery by whites. Free work for half a millenia?
First of all, i never even really heard all that much about black salves owners as much as I have about white slave owners. They were obviously in too insignificant of a category in comparison the white slave owners that it would be ridiculous to even bring it up. I've never head whites or Blacks talk about Black slave owners. And to tell you the truth, I've never even heard of a Black Slave owner in the U.S. Not saying it didn't happen, just never I've never heard of such a case in my life.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You lost me. Exactly what is just something at the end of the day to tie whites vs black?What. The mention of Black slavery by whites. Free work for half a millenia?
First of all, i never even really heard all that much about black salves owners as much as I have about white slave owners. They were obviously in too insignificant of a category in comparison the white slave owners that it would be ridiculous to even bring it up. I've never head whites or Blacks talk about Black slave owners. And to tell you the truth, I've never even heard of a Black Slave owner in the U.S. Not saying it didn't happen, just never I've never heard of such a case in my life.
There are black slave owners in Africa to this day! I mean now just because we write bigger better books doesn't mean we are the only guilty party.
Anyway I wouldnt say the work was free, slaves were purchased and that has cost. Just there are slaves to this day and they aren't in USA look around and hit up google.
What about the Egyptians enslaving Jews? Most Jews are white and a lot of Egyptians are black. And what about jews being enslaved at work camps in the 30's and 40's? It's funny that people always talk about the injustice that has been brought onto African Americans but these same people don't even mention what the Jews have went through. Don't say that there have never been white slaves, or one race enslaving it's own kind. It's not common, but it does happen.
Btw, for anyone who may be confused, Judiaism is a RELIGION, not a RACE.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You lost me. Exactly what is just something at the end of the day to tie whites vs black?What. The mention of Black slavery by whites. Free work for half a millenia?
First of all, i never even really heard all that much about black salves owners as much as I have about white slave owners. They were obviously in too insignificant of a category in comparison the white slave owners that it would be ridiculous to even bring it up. I've never head whites or Blacks talk about Black slave owners. And to tell you the truth, I've never even heard of a Black Slave owner in the U.S. Not saying it didn't happen, just never I've never heard of such a case in my life.
The first slave on American Soil is reported to have been in 1526. That was in a Spanish settlement, which is located in present day South Carolina...Which is not even 500 years ago today...So your timing is off by 200 years.
Second, there were Black Slave owners fighting in the Civil War...They were mostly located in Louisiana.
Originally posted by LiveAndLetDie
What about the Egyptians enslaving Jews? Most Jews are white and a lot of Egyptians are black. And what about jews being enslaved at work camps in the 30's and 40's? It's funny that people always talk about the injustice that has been brought onto African Americans but these same people don't even mention what the Jews have went through.Don't say that there have never been white slaves, or one race enslaving it's own kind. It's not common, but it does happen.
What about Egyptians enslaving Jews? Then create that thread then. I created this one with a specific topic in mind. I would've been okay to bring up pre-exodus slavery had the thread was titled "Slavery", which it isn't.
Jew's being enslaved in the 30's and 40's? lol for what a decade? a decade and a half tops? Your comparing that to 500 years? lol
And who said there weren' any white slaves? I sure didn't if your accusing me which looks like it. If you have proof of my saying that whites were never slaves, please post it..
Originally posted by soleran30
Anyway I wouldnt say the work was free, slaves were purchased and that has cost. Just there are slaves to this day and they aren't in USA look around and hit up google.
lol what are you talking about? Black Slaves worked for free for white for 500yrs in the U.S.. No pay was involved. They were not compensated. They were human cattle. A product. Property. It cost the (Masters) slave owners money to buy Black slaves (people) but the owner made it back 10 times 1 one yr.
Originally posted by Darth Macabre
The first slave on American Soil is reported to have been in 1526. That was in a Spanish settlement, which is located in present day South Carolina...Which is not even 500 years ago today...So your timing is off by 200 years.Second, there were Black Slave owners fighting in the Civil War...They were mostly located in Louisiana.
You're telling me I was off 200 years. The first Black slave set foot in Virginia in the early 1500's and American Slavery supposedly ended in 1865.
How did you come up with my being of 200 years??
Black slave owners? Didn't a person have to be affluent and own land and property? I strongly disbelieve that Blacks during American Slavery owned land. Because to have slaves is to have land. (a plantation). It was illegal for Blacks to even read imagine owning property like land or a house and other slaves. c'mon.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
You're telling me I was off 200 years. The first Black slave set foot in Virginia in the early 1500's and American Slavery supposedly ended in 1865.How did you come up with my being of 200 years??
Black slave owners? Didn't a person have to be affluent and own land and property? I strongly disbelieve that Blacks during American Slavery owned land. Because to have slaves is to have land. (a plantation). It was illegal for Blacks to even read imagine owning property like land or a house and other slaves. c'mon.
First of all: Learn your facts. I gave you the year the first slave was on North American soil; 1526. And it was not Virginia. The Virginia colony was settled in 1607. Now back to the 500 year thing, Slavery was abolished in 1865. You're saying 500 years of slavery. 1526 to 1865 is not 500 years. You are simply making things seem longer then what they really are to suit your needs.
Frederick Douglas was one of the greatest Orators of all time. Being an Ex slave didn't stop him from marking his place in history now did it? Tell me, if a man who was an ex slave can become one of the leading minds in 1800's why can't another ex slave earn enough money to buy his family from their "owners"? Some didn't stop there however, some even bought others to work on their land.
1830: According to the U.S. census, 3,777 Blacks own slaves in Louisiana, Maryland, Virginia, and North and South Carolina.
Can you just point out all the mass killing of black people? Were black people made to get gassed, or lined up and shot into mass graves in the nude, with no dignity left? Did they constantly have to smell burning human flesh of there families? No. The Jew weren't just enslaved, but imprisioned and literally killed by thousands. The Jews went through way more in those few years than Africans went through in 200. Did the Africans go through more in a longer period of time? Yes. But the Jews have been enslaved a lot too, and just because I didn't mention it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
First of all: Learn your facts. I gave you the year the first slave was on North American soil; 1526. And it was not Virginia. The Virginia colony was settled in 1607. Now back to the 500 year thing, Slavery was abolished in 1865. You're saying 500 years of slavery. 1526 to 1865 is not 500 yearsor math
Originally posted by LiveAndLetDie
What about the Egyptians enslaving Jews? Most Jews are white and a lot of Egyptians are black. And what about jews being enslaved at work camps in the 30's and 40's? It's funny that people always talk about the injustice that has been brought onto African Americans but these same people don't even mention what the Jews have went through. don't say that there have never been white slaves, or one race enslaving it's own kind. It's not common, but it does happen.Btw, for anyone who may be confused, Judiaism is a RELIGION, not a RACE.
Wait, wait...are you saying that the Jews don't get their fair share of attention? What the.... they got a whole country as reparations and some still use the victim role whenever they can....yes they weer persecuted for a good 2000 years but the African Americans have exactly the same right to complain...this shouldn't be a Jews vs. Black Slaves thread....both had enough harm done to them (just that Jews today are much better off (generally) than Black Americans...)
Originally posted by finti
or math
Or the use of capitalization. Black Slavery's been since before American slavery but that's off topic. Virginia was settled in the 1600's but Englishmen first stepped foot on U.S. soil in the early 1500's with slaves.
And as for Jews, I laugh at the way people pathetically compare the Jewish Holocaust in Germany to Black Slavery in the U.S. I'd rather go through a decade and a half of the indignities Jews went through than 400 or 200 or 100 years of no freedoms. Working for free and going to prison for learning to read or merely glancing at a white person.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Or the use of capitalization. Black Slavery's been since before American slavery but that's off topic. Virginia was settled in the 1600's but Englishmen first stepped foot on U.S. soil in the early 1500's with slaves.And as for Jews, I laugh at the way people pathetically compare the Jewish Holocaust in Germany to Black Slavery in the U.S. I'd rather go through a decade and a half of the indignities Jews went through than 400 or 200 or 100 years of no freedoms. Working for free and going to prison for learning to read or merely glancing at a white person.
Woah, woah....what's wrong with you people.....the Holocausrt as well as Slavery are not a nice Chapter....why argue what was more "horrible"...oh, and jsut for the record, Jews were persecuted for more than just the 15 years in the early mifd 20th century....
Originally posted by Inspectah Deck
Roughly, 90% of it was
Untrue.
The fact that you view the world from an American point of view, does not make slavery statistics any better. Arabs were and still are notorious for slavery.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
Confused? I'll explain.The titled this thread is "Black Slavery / White People" because that was the topic I wanted to generally discuss. Black Slavery in North America. And who were the main characters in this play "black slaves and white people" I know there was slavery all around the world and different times till today, but that's not what my thread is about. It doesn't read "Slavery" If that were the case then you'd have a point. But I narrowed it down.
And I never mentioned anything about "all slavery" being an implemented by whites. I will say that probably , during those times, practically every black slave owner in the U.S was a white person.
And sure forced bondage is a social issue but I'd rather look at it from a historical perspective.
Because you didnt specify ''North America'' it has lead me to believe that what you have wrote talked aboiut black slavery and white people in general.
I am white - not ''American or West Europien'' white, and since my people were slaves themselves for 500 years and have never at any point in history taken single black person for a slave, i found statement extreamly untrue.
Confusion seems cleared now though.