Originally posted by zod69
Well Nick Gillard is an expert in the art of sword fighting. I think what he meant about the thing about the dark side giving Anakin the edge. It was because Anakin's form is very aggressive and once he was consumed by the dark side, there was no limit to his aggression. But this was not necessarily a great thing as though he was able to overwhelm Obi Wan to a high degree, it lead to him being arrogant and complacent.
His oppinion still doesn't matter and he didn't invent the forms, I doubt he even really knew about them. What he thinks or says really does not matter...
Originally posted by zod360
However he is still an expert on sword fighting and would likely be able to interpret them better thab the average KMC member.
You have no idea on that, perhaps some of us here are master swordsman or have talked to them or whatever.
Besides the opinion of one fighter hardly means anything in a VS fight, unless you can prove that its a shared view by many (which you can't) or get statements from a canon source (which you can't) you have no case.
Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
Yes, the Sith are supposed to be stronger then Jedi. Thats why they are always stronger then Jedi in almost every case. Qui-Gon was a seasoned Jedi master and a brilliant swordsman, he was far better then the average Jedi knight and he got pWned by Maul, who was a Sith Apprentice. Imagine what most Sith Lords, or a Sith Master would do to Qui-Gon (Palpatine for instance) then add "WTF" to Qui-Gon's "pWned" to get what a Sith master would do to regular average Jedi.
What's the difference between "pWned" and "WTFpWned"? 😕
Originally posted by Fishy
Nick can hardly be called a Canon source... What he says is his opinion and moot in a debate really, unless we are debating Nicks opinion.
How can you possibly talk about canon in the EU section? Most of the characters mentioned in this thread are EU characters, thereby not canon. And as far as inventing the forms...who did? Without NG, the fights in the movies, would be nowhere near as good, and he choreographed the fights with his own knowledge and skill, so more than likely, he created the fights, and their styles, ensuring that each character keeps the same style thru the entire fight. But that statement was included on the movie extras, so couldn't that be considered canon in and of itself? Being as its with the movie? Point being, Anakin surpassed OB1 in saber skills when he joined the darkside. I think that speaks for something.
Point being, Anakin surpassed OB1 in saber skills when he joined the darkside. I think that speaks for something.
Which is precisely why da lil' Ani got his torso caught off! Awwwww... poor baby must have wanted mommy then 🙄
Come on, Obi's style is all about defense. We can't say that Anakin was Obi Wan's superiour in dueling skill just because of the reason Obi was on the defensive. Its Soresu versus Shien, of course Obi was on the defensive.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Well i was just watching the bonus disc of Ep3 the part thats about the stunts, "its all real". And Nick Gilliard said that Anakin has moved up to a level 9 whereas OB1 is still a level 8, and the difference is the Darkside and the Darkside is more aggressive. So by his own admission, the darkside has more "skill" in swordsmanship. So I think that Sith are typically better at sword fighting, but since they cant control their emotions and feelings, that gives the Jedi an advantage.
Originally posted by zephiel7
Which is precisely why da lil' Ani got his torso caught off! Awwwww... poor baby must have wanted mommy then 🙄Come on, Obi's style is all about defense. We can't say that Anakin was Obi Wan's superiour in dueling skill just because of the reason Obi was on the defensive. Its Soresu versus Shien, of course Obi was on the defensive.
no, i didn't say he was Superior because OB1 was defensive. But how defensive was it when Anakin was laying on the table, unarmed, and OB1 tried to hit him in the head with a saber blow? The only reason Anakin wasn't murdered is because he could get his saber in time to block.
And he was only defensive in that fight. He sure as hell wasn't too defensive against Maul. And look what happened, he almost died, but he benefited from Maul's arrogance. He could have killed him easily while he was hanging there. So he wasn't to in control of himself there. If he was smart and not so arrogant, he would have lopped of OB1's hands and sent him falling to his death.
Oh and for the record, Ani didn't get his torso cut off, he got his arm and legs cut off. 🙄
no, i didn't say he was Superior because OB1 was defensive. But how defensive was it when Anakin was laying on the table, unarmed, and OB1 tried to hit him in the head with a saber blow? The only reason Anakin wasn't murdered is because he could get his saber in time to block.
I don't know where you are getting this from. In the third movie.Where? Even if Anakin defended against Obi's blow, it doesn't mean that he is Obi's superiour.
And he was only defensive in that fight. He sure as hell wasn't too defensive against Maul. And look what happened, he almost died, but he benefited from Maul's arrogance. He could have killed him easily while he was hanging there. So he wasn't to in control of himself there. If he was smart and not so arrogant, he would have lopped of OB1's hands and sent him falling to his death.
Obi was still a padawan at the time, and not really a master of Soresu. After watching Qui gon die, I think that was the point when he began to perfect his skill in Soresu.
Oh and for the record, Ani didn't get his torso cut off, he got his arm and legs cut off.
Meh. He still got PWNT royally.
Personally I think the Sith are moer powerful than the Jedi because they don't give a damn about what they do, they just go ahead and cutting themselves free to "what horrible things one could imagine". They let themselves be emotional and use the Force to the full extent to complete what they want.
For the Jedi, they refrain from doing all that is evil and rely on the Force to help augment their skill and power to do the "right thing".
SO I think the Sith are more powerful.