ok here's my partial take on the matter:
Superman is supposed to be a boy Scout hero....everybody is happy he's around and admires his heroic efforts. The color is in tune with his upbeat persona. Same is true for the Fantastic Four. They are lighthearted characters so the colorful outfits fit them well.
X-men are shunned by society and seen as criminals. Blade and Batman as well. All dark characters who are not always seen to be on the side of the law, despite their heroic deeds. TRUE, a darker shade of their colorful costumes would have been good and acceptable for the X-men, but I guess they chose the all black leather to emphasize group unity and a darker atmosphere. They're "hidden heroes" who do good deeds but don't get appreciated by non-mutants.
If you look at Robin in Batman Forever and B & R, they toned the color down as well to keep it in tune with the dark persona of Batman.
Thats just further proof of what he has been talking about that when a studio actually trys to be faithful to the comicbook as best as possible,it CAN be done.Sure they toned it down but it wasnt a radical far out wacky change from the original costume like xmens were.The batman movies accomplished that feat,theres no reason why the xmen couldnt have done the same thing as well and toned them down a bit to make them just a LITTLE darker but be loyal to the source material at the same time like batman forevers robin costume was.and oh by the way spyspider, your wrong as usual,on THIS thread the ONLY time I have ever spoken about the xmen since I been here at this site -other than on a couple of posts on a couple of threads when I first joined ages ago,the only thing I have saying about the xmen movies since I realy dont like them as a comic i-is that they should do the comic justice with the movie or dont do it at all.
and oh this is for both you and knightfall spyspider.the reason I bring up people like harvey dent and bakerboy in the batman debates is because unlike knightfall,I can respect those two because they stick to their guns and dont back down from the burton lovers.Knightfall dissapoints me because he is afraid to stick to his guns,he just follows the crowd.two weeks ago when MANY people were bashing the burton batman movies,he was in full throttle doing the same,now that many people are defending burton,he has backed down from the bashing because he is afraid to go against the crowd unlike bakerboy or harvey dent.
sigh...dude....it's not a battle. There's no "sticking to the guns" as you so eloquently put it.
It's just different opinions on a varied spectrum. Knightfall already expressed how he hated Burton's version by having Batman kill people, etc. He CAN also say he rewatched it and realizes it wasn't THAT bad. He can also hate Kilmer more than Keaton, yet still think overall Batman 1989 sucked ass. Nobody was telling him "yo you better rethink your perspective over." In fact the only person trying to do ANYTHING to persuade him is YOU. Pot calling kettle black, anyone?
Knightfall isn't being a "traitor" to your opinion. God forbid people not agree with you totally on every aspect of a movie. There's no "siding" --it's not 3rd grade.
You gotta give respect in order to get respect. Simple as that. I don't even know why I'm trying to explain myself. You're a grown man, figure it out.
Originally posted by SpyCspider
sigh...dude....it's not a battle. There's no "sticking to the guns" as you so eloquently put it.It's just different opinions on a varied spectrum. Knightfall already expressed how he hated Burton's version by having Batman kill people, etc. He CAN also say he rewatched it and realizes it wasn't THAT bad. He can also hate Kilmer more than Keaton, yet still think overall Batman 1989 sucked ass. Nobody was telling him "yo you better rethink your perspective over." In fact the only person trying to do ANYTHING to persuade him is YOU. Pot calling kettle black, anyone?
Knightfall isn't being a "traitor" to your opinion. God forbid people not agree with you totally on every aspect of a movie. There's no "siding" --it's not 3rd grade.
You gotta give respect in order to get respect. Simple as that. I don't even know why I'm trying to explain myself. You're a grown man, figure it out.
okay I see what your saying. 😉 No he's not being a traitor or anything to my opinion but I still cant take him serious anymore like I did in the beginning with recent comments such as "you moron ," or "Val Kilmer was looking into the anals he had been giving that guy in Forever ect." and I still say that he backed down and just followed the crowd. I also still wont back down though from my view that it doesnt surprise me that many people like the burton batman movies because I have always known that most moviegoers enjoy watching crap.again the proof of that is in The star wars phantom menace movie 😄 which is ranked at number 5 as the biggest blockbuster of all time but hardly a masterpiece and stunning movie like the original first two movies A New Hope ann Empire Strikes Back are.
anyways enough about that.Lets back to the topic of my comments I gave to you about the xmen movie okay? 😉
Originally posted by Mr Parker
So no comment on how it was inexcusable for them to not try and make the xmen costumes a LITTLE darker but stay true to the source material like they did with the robin costumes in Schumachers Batman movies huh? Okay I see. 😄
nah, it didn't bother me that much so i dont' think it was inexcusable. I already agreed it could have worked if they used a darker version of the colorful costumes, but I really don't see how it would have enhanced the movie by that much.
On the other hand, I have to say I AM a bit disappointed by the way Jean Grey looks in the X3 trailer....i wanted her to look stunningly scarlet, as opposed to the kinda plain dark red they're having her in. Beast is looking pretty tight, however.
Another example where too colorful kinda made me wince. Green Goblin's power ranger costume, it was too green and made him look comical. There were original designs where he's wearing a darkish green cowl that made him look more deathly as opposed to cartoony.
oh just thought of one more thing. IMO, Elektra's outfit in her own movie was a big improvement over the black she wore in Daredevil. Why? Because her stunning scarlet outfit fits with her femme fatale persona. And it wasn't just the color, but the way it fit on her made her look better as well. It didn't look comical. Only thing she was missing was her trademark headpiece. The fact that I don't think Jennifer Garner is hot enough to play her is my opinion as well, but that's another argument. 😉