Originally posted by Bardock42
a) it doesn't state that they were murderes
b) well if the lifes of these "murderers" are not so important I assume the life of the new "murderer" isn'T important much either.
Animals get killed every day.. maybe they shouldn´t be killed too, and we could live everyone as vegetarians.... after all we don´t need so much to live, its all just luxury.
Its not because they are murderers or sex offenders that I think their lives are not important, but you know that they did things not right... and if they were killed it were they who brought it on themselves, they are not good people.
Maybe the guy should control their hate, not seek vengeange or something like that, but what he did is not really a problem for society.
I think he did nothing too wrong, just illegal, and laws don´t tell what is right or wrong, they just tell what you can do without getting punished. Its up for you to judge good and evil.
Originally posted by Atlantis001
Animals get killed every day.. maybe they shouldn´t be killed too, and we could live everyone as vegetarians.... after all we don´t need so much to live, its all just luxury.Its not because they are murderers or sex offenders that I think their lives are not important, but you know that they did things not right... and if they were killed it were they who brought it on themselves, they are not good people.
Maybe the guy should control their hate, not seek vengeange or something like that, but what he did is not really a problem for society.
I think he did nothing too wrong, just illegal, and laws don´t tell what is right or wrong, they just tell what you can do without getting punished. Its up for you to judge good and evil.
Don't see what animals have to do with the issue at hand at all.
Now, I personally wouldn't say they did things right or wrong..they did something illegal and got punished for it.
Neither is what the Sex Offenders did...we chose to punish them though.
Sure you can judge good and evil if you feel like it, but if you act against the law you will get punished.
The guy who murdered the offenders is in no way different to them, tht is all there is.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Don't see what animals have to do with the issue at hand at all.Now, I personally wouldn't say they did things right or wrong..they did something illegal and got punished for it.
Neither is what the Sex Offenders did...we chose to punish them though.
Sure you can judge good and evil if you feel like it, but if you act against the law you will get punished.
The guy who murdered the offenders is in no way different to them, tht is all there is.
I know what you mean, the law states that he must be punished, but I think the laws are wrong.
Its impossible to escape from the "right and wrong" thing, we are always dealing with this matter indirectly, if you say that if you act against the law you will get punished, then you are saying that the laws are right.
We are already discussing right and wrong.
He shouldn't have gotten 44 years. That's not a huge amount of time compared to other people who ill people in cold blood, but it still should have been less. Much less. IMO, anyway.
Anyway, that is a hugely powerful thing to do, not run and say put me to death. I think he drove his point home to anyone who heard about this.
Originally posted by Atlantis001
Animals get killed every day.. maybe they shouldn´t be killed too, and we could live everyone as vegetarians.... after all we don´t need so much to live, its all just luxury.Its not because they are murderers or sex offenders that I think their lives are not important, but you know that they did things not right... and if they were killed it were they who brought it on themselves, they are not good people.
Maybe the guy should control their hate, not seek vengeange or something like that, but what he did is not really a problem for society.
I think he did nothing too wrong, just illegal, and laws don´t tell what is right or wrong, they just tell what you can do without getting punished. Its up for you to judge good and evil.
Since when do two wrongs make a right?
Hank Eisses and Victor Vasquez doing something wrong does not justify Michael A. Mullen doing something wrong.
Murder is wrong regardless of whether or not the victim is a good person.
Originally posted by Syren
Nope, they just molested people.
Yes...and got punished accordingly.
Although let me think about it...hmm kill 2 people.....won't have a chance to live on....harm to all their friends and family....molesting someone....yeah has a chance to live on.....hmm....seems like murder is worse.
Originally posted by meep-meep
He shouldn't have gotten 44 years. That's not a huge amount of time compared to other people who ill people in cold blood, but it still should have been less. Much less. IMO, anyway.Anyway, that is a hugely powerful thing to do, not run and say put me to death. I think he drove his point home to anyone who heard about this.
Quite a cowardly thing in my opinion. First kill two people and then wanting the fast way out.
Originally posted by Da preacher
That dude definately read too much Punishercomics.
Yeah quite. Now Vigilante work is quite funny.....in theory. Obviously, a society has to take care of such elements.
Originally posted by Atlantis001
I know what you mean, the law states that he must be punished, but I think the laws are wrong.Its impossible to escape from the "right and wrong" thing, we are always dealing with this matter indirectly, if you say that if you act against the law you will get punished, then you are saying that the laws are right.
We are already discussing right and wrong.
How is the the law wrong?
The guy killed 2 people in cold blood. Doesnt matter if he's doing the right thing or not.
What happens if those two people were rehabilited (you know the whole idea behind the justice system), and were doing things for the community. Or what happens if they were doing some good
You cant go around just killling people.
I do agree that the system for sexual offenders needs working, and be more strict. But this guy is an cold blooder murderer. He interviewed him before he killed them.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Since when do two wrongs make a right?Hank Eisses and Victor Vasquez doing something wrong does not justify Michael A. Mullen doing something wrong.
Murder is wrong regardless of whether or not the victim is a good person.
Maybe for me it is more a question of morale, and honor perhaps.
I don´t think it is very wrong to kill in such a way. Maybe a little, since he didn´t need to do it, but that does not mean he is a menace to society. The sex offenders brought it on themselves.
Originally posted by Atlantis001
Maybe for me it is more a question of morale, and honor perhaps.I don´t think it is very wrong to kill in such a way. Maybe a little, since he didn´t need to do it, but that does not mean he is a menace to society. The sex offenders brought it on themselves.
In other words, there is nothing wrong with murder so long as one only murders the "right" people.
To you, sexual predators are the "right" people. To others, homosexuals are the "right" people. To the Nazis, the Jews are the "right" people.
If this is your view, then you are in good company.
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Originally posted by Smasandian
How is the the law wrong?The guy killed 2 people in cold blood. Doesnt matter if he's doing the right thing or not.
What happens if those two people were rehabilited (you know the whole idea behind the justice system), and were doing things for the community. Or what happens if they were doing some good
You cant go around just killling people.I do agree that the system for sexual offenders needs working, and be more strict. But this guy is an cold blooder murderer. He interviewed him before he killed them.
He not killed them like that, he even let one escape when he showed remorse.
The state also kills people, there is a death sentence. The state also judges other people lives, that is not something that just he did when he killed the sex offenders.
I think there is so many ways to kill indirectly, we kill animals just for luxury, we kill people by denying medical assistance, we kill by not taking action agaisnt crime, we can kill sometimes just by gossip...
Killing is easier and more common than we can think.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
In other words, there is nothing wrong with murder so long as one only murders the "right" people.To you, sexual predators are the "right" people. To others, homosexuals are the "right" people. To the Nazis, the Jews are the "right" people.
If this is your view, then you are in good company.
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There is a lot of difference between recognising the direct threat criminals (like these sex-offenders) are to society, and the ignorant discrimination of which you made examples.
At least the retribution laid upon the offenders in this case has a somewhat understandable motivation, it has nothing to do with the blind and selfish hate that racism is about.