Current Hercules vs. Current Juggernaut

Started by Betageuze10 pages

yes thats the truth.......

Juggs power is not limitless... and i am sure, that he CAN be stopped.... and for sure by a guy like the incredible Hulk (mindless version)

i mean... i stop all you guys here by myself...... no problem

have a nice day... 🙂

First I want to specify that I'm talking about CLASSIC Juggernaut, because I lack information on current Juggernaut. Hopefully you can deal with it. Thanks mates.

wow... you are all must having a ... Juggernaut-fetish smile

I don't even like Juggernaut that much, he's a nice character, but there's something that I don't like. His matches with Thor are great, though. And of course Wolverine's desperate attacks on him almost every time they meet. Priceless.

have you ever seen what Hulk did with Gladiator (who is on par with DCs Superman... at least).... ?????

Hmmm, I thought I knew a lot about Hulk, but I've never heard of Gladiator and Hulk having a fight. Could someone post scans or tell what happened?

And I'm not sure whether he's equal to Superman or not, because there are so many incarnations of Superman. And since Gladiator's strength is based on his confidence I would say that he can't beat Juggernaut; when he finds out that he can't hurt Juggy --> confidence goes down quickly.

HULKs strength has no limits... and he has the ressources to STOP the Juggernaut.... no matter if its Current, Classic , 8th day or Trion

Here's something I agree on: Hulk probably is able to STOP Juggernaut, but he can't make any damage. Stop? Yes. Hurt? No.

8th day Juggernaut didn't have more power than usually, he just used his powers better because of his increased concentration. Usually he toys with his enemies, but this time he simply pushed Thor down (I'm a Thor-fan, but still I enjoyed the moment. 8th day is a magnificent story arc).

And it's not wise to speculate things about Trion Juggernaut, his abilities aren't known that well. Yes, he went through dimensional walls, but also Hulk punched his way through a time storm once. In my opinion, talking about Trion Juggernaut is just like talking about Cosmic Spidey; useless, since we don't have adequate knowledge.

he will STOP the Juggernaut... without outside interference...[/quote

As I said, he might stop Juggernaut, but not defeat him. Hulk doesn't have any magical knowledge or powers and if I recall correctly he isn't a telepath.

[quote]Juggs is a 90tons behemoth.... far under guys like Hercules, Thor, Hulk, Gladiator, Abomination, Wonderman and the list goes on and on .. and on.....

Classic Juggernaut is Class 100, I don't no about current one, though.

And of those guys you mentioned, Thor is the only one with a chance to beat Juggernaut. Thor is one versatile SOB, he's like Pre-Crisis Superman, his abilities vary when needed. But rest of those hoodlums are mostly relying on strength only, and that's not an option against Juggernaut. Gladiator has other abilities, though. I'm not saying that Juggernaut would win all these fights, but neither can those guys (except Thor) defeat Juggernaut. A long stalemate, eh?

Originally posted by soleran30
momentum means he cannot be stopped moving forward but that doesn't mean he can lift unlimited amount of weight over his head...........................

It's simple logic. If he can walk through anything then he must have limitless strength.

He couldn't walk through a god blast. Hence, he doesn't have unlimited momentum. Right?

Samishe: Gotta love your signature, Venom's the man!

Originally posted by Tshern
He couldn't walk through a god blast. Hence, he doesn't have unlimited momentum. Right?

Samishe: Gotta love your signature, Venom's the man!

Tanx!! 😄

look at the incredible hulk annual 1997.... hulk destroyed Gladiator....

and Glady is a guy, who can handle Juggernaut... trust me

Gladiator has the physical abilities.... the speed,... weapons...

i would say, that a very confident Hercules.. on his peak.... can handle Juggernaut (Current AND Classic)...and like we heard...

the physical abilities of 8th day and trion are not bigger than the ones of the Classic Juggernaut

Originally posted by Tshern
First I want to specify that I'm talking about CLASSIC Juggernaut, because I lack information on current Juggernaut. Hopefully you can deal with it. Thanks mates.

I don't even like Juggernaut that much, he's a nice character, but there's something that I don't like. His matches with Thor are great, though. And of course Wolverine's desperate attacks on him almost every time they meet. Priceless.

Hmmm, I thought I knew a lot about Hulk, but I've never heard of Gladiator and Hulk having a fight. Could someone post scans or tell what happened?

And I'm not sure whether he's equal to Superman or not, because there are so many incarnations of Superman. And since Gladiator's strength is based on his confidence I would say that he can't beat Juggernaut; when he finds out that he can't hurt Juggy --> confidence goes down quickly.

Here's something I agree on: Hulk probably is able to STOP Juggernaut, but he can't make any damage. Stop? Yes. Hurt? No.

8th day Juggernaut didn't have more power than usually, he just used his powers better because of his increased concentration. Usually he toys with his enemies, but this time he simply pushed Thor down (I'm a Thor-fan, but still I enjoyed the moment. 8th day is a magnificent story arc).

And it's not wise to speculate things about Trion Juggernaut, his abilities aren't known that well. Yes, he went through dimensional walls, but also Hulk punched his way through a time storm once. In my opinion, talking about Trion Juggernaut is just like talking about Cosmic Spidey; useless, since we don't have adequate knowledge.

Classic Juggernaut is Class 100, I don't no about current one, though.

And of those guys you mentioned, Thor is the only one with a chance to beat Juggernaut. Thor is one versatile SOB, he's like Pre-Crisis Superman, his abilities vary when needed. But rest of those hoodlums are mostly relying on strength only, and that's not an option against Juggernaut. Gladiator has other abilities, though. I'm not saying that Juggernaut would win all these fights, but neither can those guys (except Thor) defeat Juggernaut. A long stalemate, eh?

Juggernaut is absolutely nothing like Pre-Crisis Superman. PC Supes would totally murder Juggernaut. PC Superman may be the only thing in comics that could possibly stop Juggernaut while he's running.

i agree also..

Juggernaut IS a great character... i love this character.. he is a monster... he is great... really :
i love this character more than the Abomination one

BUT

all this sheet saying.. that Juggernaut is UNSTOPPABLE.... Juggernaut is stronger and has more physical power than Thor or a Mindless Hulk

this is not the truth

i only say that:

MINDLESS HULK IS PHYSICALLY STRONGER THAN CLASSIC JUGGERNAUT !!!

Originally posted by Betageuze
look at the incredible hulk annual 1997.... hulk destroyed Gladiator....

and Glady is a guy, who can handle Juggernaut... trust me

Gladiator has the physical abilities.... the speed,... weapons...

i would say, that a very confident Hercules.. on his peak.... can handle Juggernaut (Current AND Classic)...and like we heard...

the physical abilities of 8th day and trion are not bigger than the ones of the Classic Juggernaut

actually Juggernaut is the Guy that can Handle Gladiator.

YOU STUPID ASS HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT TRION IS NOT STRONGER THAN CLASSIC?

Juggs CANNOT handle Gladiator

Gladiator is physically stronger than Juggernaut
and has more speed..more weapons....

Hulk has handled Gladiator.... but only because of his limitless physical power

interesting would be a fight between

Hercules and Gladiator

Originally posted by Betageuze
Juggs CANNOT handle Gladiator

Gladiator is physically stronger than Juggernaut
and has more speed..more weapons....

Hulk has handled Gladiator.... but only because of his limitless physical power

interesting would be a fight between

Hercules and Gladiator

MAN! Juggernaut handed hulk who has "limitless strength". So?

physically .... you kiddy juggy fan ....

yes .. thats the truth ... HULK KILLER HUMANOID vs. Mindless Hulk... these two ... are the ones with the ultimate physical power.....

than ... Hercules, Thor, Gladiator....

and on the third step.. perhaps a 90ton class guy like the juggernaut would appear

Thor has beaten Juggernaut... not reverse

and the one time Juggs has already beaten Hulk was.. when Cain was in street clothes, and Hulk dont want do manhandle a streetguy

Originally posted by Betageuze
physically .... you kiddy juggy fan ....

I'm fan? Well it's better than being Hulk fanboy.

If ya don't trust me, Look at Juggernaut respect thread. There are scans of Juggernaut beating Hulk.

Juggernaut is absolutely nothing like Pre-Crisis Superman. PC Supes would totally murder Juggernaut. PC Superman may be the only thing in comics that could possibly stop Juggernaut while he's running.

God blast stopped Juggernaut and even pushed him back.

And I picked my words wrongly when I compared Thor and Superman, sorry 'bout that. I meant that both recieve/recieved powers and abilities whenever necessary. Thor is able to change elements and mind control people with his hammer is one example of that. Of course Pre-Crisis Supes is better in (possibly) every aspect, but they still have some similar characteristics. Hope this clarified it.

MINDLESS HULK IS PHYSICALLY STRONGER THAN CLASSIC JUGGERNAUT !!!

For once I agree with you. Stronger in means of physical strength, but definitely not as enduring.

Originally posted by Betageuze
yes .. thats the truth ... HULK KILLER HUMANOID vs. Mindless Hulk... these two ... are the ones with the ultimate physical power.....

than ... Hercules, Thor, Gladiator....

and on the third step.. perhaps a 90ton class guy like the juggernaut would appear

Thor has beaten Juggernaut... not reverse

and the one time Juggs has already beaten Hulk was.. when Cain was in street clothes, and Hulk dont want do manhandle a streetguy

Oh sorry! You know better than Marvel writers.

Originally posted by Tshern
God blast stopped Juggernaut and even pushed him back.

And I picked my words wrongly when I compared Thor and Superman, sorry 'bout that. I meant that both recieve/recieved powers and abilities whenever necessary. Thor is able to change elements and mind control people with his hammer is one example of that. Of course Pre-Crisis Supes is better in (possibly) every aspect, but they still have some similar characteristics. Hope this clarified it.

For once I agree with you. Stronger in means of physical strength, but definitely not as enduring.

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http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/j/juggernaut.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut_(comics)
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Highrise/9770/juggy.html

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