Current Hercules vs. Current Juggernaut

"His power comes from the gem embedded in his chest. It has transformed him into a gigantic, tremendously powerful figure. His strength has never been measured, but it is certainly at the same level as the Hulk's (it has been long argued which one is the strongest)."

evn hulk comic book writers never answer the question "WHO IS STRONGER HULK OR JUGGERNAUT?"

^ I understand wink

I sometimes write quite incomprehensible when I'm busy. Had some troubles with cooking.

Betageuze has a few good points, no doubt about that.

-Mindless Hulk has potential to surpass classic Juggernaut's stregth.
-Hercules vs Gladiator would be a good match if Gladiator didn't speedblitz.
-Hulk has won Juggernaut. Not alone, though.

^ Those are all good points :wink:

* 😉

Originally posted by Betageuze
http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-juggernaut.html

I looked at this, and I seriously have no idea where on earth they got 90 tons from. This article is about classic Juggernaut, and it's shown in every other place on earth that he's a class 100. It's even said on Marvel's main site that Juggernaut Classic is a class 100. Sorry kid. Try again next year.

And hand books might not contain actual info. Just like DarkCrawler has shown, they have mistakes.

http://www.marveldirectory.com/indi.../juggernaut.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juggernaut_(comics)

http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/...9770/juggy.html

Again.

^ Yeah, but even my hand book has Classic Jugs as well over class 100.

I know he's at least Class 100 (or used to be), I was refering to the page Betageuze gave. There are several sources and feats suggesting that Juggernaut is at least Class 100, but only one saying Class 90. It's not hard to know which is the correct answer when talking about classic Juggernaut.

Again my obscure post made you get a wrong image. Damn.

^ It's okay. 😉

NOOOOO! you are feeding him, it only makes beta babble more!!!! stop this vicious cycle please i cant take the retardedness, or 'retartedness' what ever, any more! Dear lord in heaven make it stop!!hang

YOU KNOW WHY IS JUGGERNAUT STRONGER THAN HULK? BECAUSE HE GETS POWER FROM A GOD HULK GETS POWER FROM GAMMA RADIATION CYTTORAK>>>>>>>>>GAMMA RADIATION
GOT IT?

Oh hell I will repost this once again, the 90 ton comment was classic Juggernaut in the 90's. However, recent handbook entrys have even said the current [weaker] Jugz is still 100 tons

Originally posted by King_Mungi
FYI it was said in the two recent handbooks that jobbernaut was still class 100. The class 90 was the handbook: deluxe edition from way back in the day.

1. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/MarvelEncyclopedia1p215.jpg
2. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f130/A_Flight7/ME2-240.jpg

go to marvel or marvel directory and read that juggernaut was never class90

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
go to marvel or marvel directory and read that juggernaut was never class90

1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/I-J/Juggernautback.jpg

go to marvel or marvel directory and read that juggernaut was never class90

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
go to marvel or marvel directory and read that juggernaut was never class90

Marvel directory is based from the offical handbooks as the scan I just posted. Marvel.com now has bios made by fans, it's turning into wikipedia. How does going to those two sites prove he was never class 90?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Marvel directory is based from the offical handbooks as the scan I just posted. Marvel.com now has bios made by fans, it's turning into wikipedia. How does going to those two sites prove he was never class 90?

Actually it's not, your post have to be approved by the publishers, and such at Marvel.

Sorry I have to quote myslelf, but Betageuze needs to read this.

Quote: First off, you continuely state that Savage Hulk's strength is unlimited when in fact it's not. If you know how to use logic you would know that Juggernaut is in fact stronger than Hulk, and any other Marvel character. Hulk's strength increases as his rage does, but if you knew anything you would know that rage isn't limitless. Your rage can only become so out of hand before you die. On the other hand Juggernaut is the living embodiment of Cytorrak the exemplar or god of physical might. So this means that Juggernaut can move or lift anything he so chooses. If you look back at the comics Juggernaut has appeared in he's never had a problem with anything that had to due with physical might. Juggernaut is possibly the strongest character in the Marvel universe.

Secondly, Juggernaut has never lost a fight to anyone except War Hulk. You keep saying that Hulk has bested Juggernaut more than Juggernaut has bested hulk. Well thats not true, Juggernaut has defeated Hulk 2 times while Hulk has defeated Juggernaut well never. In fact Juggernaut is not physically able to be beat in a brawl. If written correctly Juggernaut would not have lost to War Hulk. All Juggernaut would have had to do is summon his shield which makes him the unstoppable being he is.

Thirdly, Juggernaut cannot be harmed by any force except psionic. If you read the comics Juggernaut has never been harmed not, even by War Hulk. He's was knocked back yes, but damaged no. When he summons his shield nothing can stop or damage him.
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The god blast pushed Juggernaut back, but it didn't stop his movement. Juggernaut was standing still when hit with the god blast.