Master Kavar versus Asaaj Ventress

Originally posted by zephiel7
Here are the people in the KOTOR time we KNOW could defeat Kavar.

Revan (beat Malak who beat Kavar)
Malak (duh)
Traya (duh)
Nihilus (he could defeat anyone except for the below)
Exile (duh)

The people who could defeat Ventress are numerous, too much to bother putting down. Clone Wars Anakin could defeat Ventress. In Obsession she was no joke, but still I woudn't put her above Kavar who was the best duelist of the [B]Jedi Order . [/B]

Notice that I said that he appeared to be second on the Council. None of the people you mentioned were on the Council. I also doubt that the Exile would win anyway.

DS exile does win, he kills all 3 jedi masters, he also beats kreia who killed the three of them.

We don't know if the Exile is canonly DS or LS though. I don't think LS Exile would win, and even if the Exile was DS you don't have to defeat Kavar.

Indeed, but on the Kavar vs Malak fight we don't know the exact circum stances, but we do know that most people (Mandalore) fought Kavar had died.

We know that Zez Kai and Kavar both admit to being weaker

and we know that the Jedi Council thought Revan was the only that could beat Malak.

So that does mean Malak > Kavar.

Indeed, but on the Kavar vs Malak fight we don't know the exact circum stances, but we do know that most people (Mandalore) fought Kavar had died.

We know that Zez Kai and Kavar both admit to being weaker

and we know that the Jedi Council thought Revan was the only that could beat Malak.

So that does mean Malak > Kavar.

Right you are, fisherman.

true, the point i was trying to make was that in the game, when the exile is given a chance to beat kavar he could succeed if he took it.

Possibly there is a problem with that though, and we don't know if he did or did not. We don't know if he could have or could not have. We know that Kreia had the power and the ability canon, but we can't really say the same about the Exile because we have never seen him actually do it or know for sure that he could. If the Exile is LS canon then he is a lot less impressive then if he's DS.

If the Exile is LS canon then he is a lot less impressive then if he's DS.

What makes you think that? Kreia states that the Exile was her best student regardless of whatever path he took.

Kreia her oppinion is somewhat biased probably... And it doesn't mean much to be honest.

But if the exile is LS, we have very little confirmed kills if he's DS he at least killed the Jedi Council Members, of course he did do that with borrowed powers, bu the probably kept those powers even when he restored his connection to the force completely so that doesn't really matter.

exile is unknown, that being said if you took the oppurtunity you could kill kavar, therefore if he did take the opportunity we know he's more powerful, if he didn't we know he would have won anyways.

I was trying to arrive at that point. From what we see of him in DS perspective, we know he can accomplish that much if he were LS.