Count Dooku Vs Obi-Wan(ROTS), Grievous, and Kit Fisto

Kind of like how Anakin sat and watch as Kenobi got smashed under a platform, correct?

Grievous is no match for Dooku. I'm sure Dooku knows Grievous' maneuvers seeing as he taught him. Not to mention Grievous' movements were easily thrown off guard by Dooku in the CW Cartoons.

And . . . I could use the A>B>C Debate.

Kenobi > Grievous

Dooku > Kenobi

So . . .

Dooku > Grievous

Grievous could be taken out within a matter of seconds with a Force crush while Dooku defends against Kit and Kenobi using one hand, seeing as his Lightsaber Form is proficient with one hand and we have seen him multi task several times in the Movies.

Actually, he got kicked into a wall. So he was unable to help his master at the time.

Dooku merely tapped Anakin and he flew into the closest wall. He was sitting on his side watching Kenobi get picked up, choked for a second, thrown across the room, smashed against a railing as Dooku applied the Force for at least five-seven seconds to crush Kenobi.

It took Anakin at least a total of ten-twelve seconds to get back up after that one kick.

And he was watching it all go down.

Sorry, but the Cartoon is not more canon than LOE.

Never said Dooku didn't > Grievous. Just that it wouldn't be as close as you guys think.

How is the Cartoon not more canon than LOE? The Cartoon was perfectly accurate and was a Lucas production. The Book was not a Lucas production.

What's more Canon again?

Yeah, Dooku could crush Grievous's chest with one hand while fending off two Jedi Masters with his other. roll eyes (sarcastic) Seriosuly, he's not that good. And the crush wouldn't kill Grievous for a while.

All he'd have to do is compact his lungs with one quick force grip.

You see what happened to Anakin in AotC? One short blast of Sith Lightning and Anakin was across the room on the ground with smoke seeping off of his clothing.

Either Dooku sticks out a hand and zaps Grievous to shit, virtually melting his organs, eyes, synthetic brains, f*cks up his wiring . . .

Kind of like the Vader effect on RotJ, except twice as worse.

It took Mace less than a second to do a quick grab on Grievous chest and he is a Jedi that rarely uses Grips and probably doesn't use them often or wouldn't have mastered them like a Sith lord.

Once Mace used it on Grievous, Grievous was coughing and his voice changed. Imagine Dooku doing that. Pwned.

Dooku isn't stronger in the force then Mace. But he still takes Grievous out with the force.

Originally posted by zod360
Dooku isn't stronger in the force then Mace. But he still takes Grievous out with the force.

Whoa . . . Excuse me?

That's damn ridiculous to say that shit.

Especially considering we've seen Dooku in action with the Force.

We see him use Lightning twice, grip Kenobi, bend huge rippled Metal, chuck a large chunk of Metal at Yoda, force a ceiling to cave in, bring down a Large Platform on Kenobi, throw Asajj around using the Force . . .

Dooku is on the Dark Side and is most likely a stronger practitioner of Force Technique, seeing as we have seen him utilize the Force with stunning effeciency.

Not to mention he has extra Dark side power and technique over Mace and also has thirty more years of granted Experience.

Read shatterpoint, and LOE. Dooku doesn't gain any special powers when he turns to the darkside aside from Force lightning. Mace is the superior duelist.

He may know more offensive force powers (due to the dark side), but his potency with these abilities isn't even that great. As far as I'm concerned his force lightning sucks and Grievous would be able to block it (look how easily Yoda is able to absorb it). To kill him with the force he would have to do what Windu did - telekenesis. Most of the stuff you mentioned shows how good he was at utilising the force while lightsaber dueling, which he was. Mace shows far greater force power, knowledge and control in the EU.

Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
Whoa . . . Excuse me?

That's damn ridiculous to say that shit.

Especially considering we've seen Dooku in action with the Force.

We see him use Lightning twice, grip Kenobi, bend huge rippled Metal, chuck a large chunk of Metal at Yoda, force a ceiling to cave in, bring down a Large Platform on Kenobi, throw Asajj around using the Force . . .

Dooku is on the Dark Side and is most likely a stronger practitioner of Force Technique, seeing as we have seen him utilize the Force with stunning effeciency.

Not to mention he has extra Dark side power and technique over Mace and also has thirty more years of granted Experience.

Sorgo, if the cartoons are more canon than LoE, Mace is a verifiable Force demi-god. He only tosses aside a few hundred super battle droids at a time with radial and forward Force pushes, crushes the carapaces of a dozen droids at once, leaps distances the equivalent of a kilometer or two, and can change directions in mid-air.

What he said.

Originally posted by tdtd
Read shatterpoint, and LOE. Dooku doesn't gain any special powers when he turns to the darkside aside from Force lightning. Mace is the superior duelist.

You have no founded proof Mace is the superior duelist except for "Uh . . . Doku gain teh force light."

Google all the powers that Dark Side practitioners. Yeah, because Dooku went to the Dark Side and only learned one power.

^ Sarcasm, if you didn't get it.

I'm tired of only hearing this from you for your shoddy replies:

"Mace is better."

^ That's basically all I'm seeing.

No, that's all youre reading. Mace and Yoda were considered the greatest duelists on the order and in centuries, while Dooku was considered one of the best. That alone means Mace and Yoda were both superior to Dooku.

Originally posted by zod360
He may know more offensive force powers (due to the dark side), but his potency with these abilities isn't even that great. As far as I'm concerned his force lightning sucks and Grievous would be able to block it (look how easily Yoda is able to absorb it). To kill him with the force he would have to do what Windu did - telekenesis. Most of the stuff you mentioned shows how good he was at utilising the force while lightsaber dueling, which he was. Mace shows far greater force power, knowledge and control in the EU.

^ That's a line of shit.

Grievous blocking Force Lightning? Oh my god, man.

His Lightning would smash Grievous. Do you not understand the concept that Grievous stands little chance against Dooku?

Sorry to ruin your day, but Dooku was an Uber Force wielder.

First of all, Dooku exerts a mediocre strain of Lightning at Yoda that is blocked.

If it wasn't blocked, Yoda would have been across the room on his knees. See what happened to a twenty year old Jedi who recieved Dooku's lightning? Across the room in smoke.

Yeah, Mace shows oh so much control. Have you seen RotS?

I didn't see him going wild, Sorgo. . .

Originally posted by tdtd
No, that's all youre reading. Mace and Yoda were considered the greatest duelists on the order and in centuries, while Dooku was considered one of the best. That alone means Mace and Yoda were both superior to Dooku.

What the hell? That is complete bullshit and you're going to try to pass that off as some executable source? Fine, two can play that game.

Dooku is better than Mace because it says so in the Databank.

^ There. Settled.

Dooku is an uber force wielder? REALLY... Where do you see evidence of this? He unleashes his level 1 subpar lightning while Yoda blocks it with no problems.. Mace blocked Sidious' lightning, which was MUCH more powerful, with his saber. There is nothing to indicate Dooku is superior to Mace in any way. If anything, they are on par with each other, at the very least. Your arguments of "he coulda done this that and this" are illogical.

Originally posted by Faunus
I didn't see him going wild, Sorgo. . .

DB:

"Dooku had studied the ways of the Force for almost eight decades, becoming one of its most powerful practitioners."

Yeah, well, these guys are making him sound like buttered bread when it comes to the force.

Dooku is superior to everybody in saber combat except Windu and Yoda. Dooku is superior to everyone in the force except Windu, Yoda, and Sidious.. This is fact.

Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
DB:

[b]"Dooku had studied the ways of the Force for almost eight decades, becoming one of its most powerful practitioners."

Yeah, well, these guys are making him sound like buttered bread when it comes to the force. [/B]

I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing your assertion that Mace lacks control.

Originally posted by tdtd
Dooku is an uber force wielder? REALLY... Where do you see evidence of this? He unleashes his level 1 subpar lightning while Yoda blocks it with no problems.. Mace blocked Sidious' lightning, which was MUCH more powerful, with his saber. There is nothing to indicate Dooku is superior to Mace in any way. If anything, they are on par with each other, at the very least. Your arguments of "he coulda done this that and this" are illogical.

What does Mace BLOCKING Lightning have to do with Dooku DISHING OUT Lightning?

Good one there, bud.

Sorry, but can you show me where in Mace's DB Profile it shows him as "One of the Most powerful Force Users"?

Because it says that in Dooku's profile. Weird, eh?

Originally posted by tdtd
Dooku is superior to everybody in saber combat except Windu and Yoda. Dooku is superior to everyone in the force except Windu, Yoda, and Sidious.. This is fact.

No one said that!

But I've been continously seeing this in Mace and Dooku arguments and it's pissing me off.

For Example: Dooku and Yoda VS Mace and Sidious

Well, okay, Yoda and Sidious fight while Mace kills Dooku and Mace helps sids. Teh end.

No one says he is superior but saying Mace is beyond Dooku in the Force and Lightsaber combat is ridiculous! They are on par, at least.

Originally posted by Faunus
I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing your assertion that Mace lacks control.

Originally posted by Faunus
I didn't see him going wild, Sorgo. . .