Count Dooku Vs Obi-Wan(ROTS), Grievous, and Kit Fisto

Started by Lörd Sorgo17 pages

Not trying to sound like a Fanboy here, but all I ever see is Mace pwning Dooku without reason!

They're pretty much on par and it's a hard one to solve, yet I always see "Maces pwns Dooku cuz Mace got sids" Or "Mace has vapaad so dooku diez nowz!111

Originally posted by zod360
Dooku isn't stronger in the force then Mace. But he still takes Grievous out with the force.
Originally posted by tdtd
Dooku doesn't gain any special powers when he turns to the darkside aside from Force lightning. Mace is the superior duelist.

^ Examples of the shit we see.

No one ever provides proof or even a half decent debate about how Mace would win. They just say . . . Mace would win.

Well, I'd have to say that the two are more or less on par, to be honest. Nothing points to one being vastly superior to the other.

Originally posted by Faunus
Well, I'd have to say that the two are more or less on par, to be honest. Nothing points to one being vastly superior to the other.

Thank you. That is virtually what I've been trying to say. I just got a bit angry at the fact that people always come out with the "Mace is better" Crap without proof or a good argument so I guess I got a bit touchy about it and started to deteriorate Mace.

Anyways, the two are two close a match and I think they both have great skills and traits as Jedi and Sith and the match would be too close for call.

Originally posted by Lörd Sorgo
^ That's a line of shit.

Grievous blocking Force Lightning? Oh my god, man.

His Lightning would smash Grievous. Do you not understand the concept that Grievous stands little chance against Dooku?

Sorry to ruin your day, but Dooku was an Uber Force wielder.

First of all, Dooku exerts a mediocre strain of Lightning at Yoda that is blocked.

If it wasn't blocked, Yoda would have been across the room on his knees. See what happened to a twenty year old Jedi who recieved Dooku's lightning? Across the room in smoke.

Yeah, Mace shows oh so much control. Have you seen RotS?

I know that Dooku kills Grievous with the force. You clearly are not able to distinguish resisting force powers and blocking them with a saber. Blocking lightning with a saber works the same way as blocking blaster fire. And Grievous is shown to be capable of doing this very easily, so why wouldn't he be able to block Dooku's weak lightning. You seem to immediately presume that he wouldn't be able to block it because he cannot use the force. Dooku would have to use a force power which has to be resisted rather then blocked, or could just affect his mechanical limbs (like Windu did through telekinesis).

By looking at your original username, I can tell that you are a Dooku fanboy. Mace is simply better then him in all ways. He is more powerful in the force then Dooku, he has more control over the force, he has more knowledge of the force, he is better at defending against force powers, he is in better shape and he is a better duelist. All these things are not unfounded.

Dooku and Mace could be on par at the very least for Mace, in terms of saber combat. However Mace was called the greatest duelist for centuries, while Dooku wasn't mentioned.

You realize that you two have provided absolutely no proof for Windu's superiority whatsoever? If I'm a Dooku fanboy for stating this, check my past usernames.

Yes I have Faunus. I explained lots of things.

Originally posted by zod360
Yes I have Faunus. I explained lots of things.

You've stated a lot of things. Pardon me, but this:

Mace is simply better then him in all ways. He is more powerful in the force then Dooku, he has more control over the force, he has more knowledge of the force, he is better at defending against force powers, he is in better shape and he is a better duelist.

is unsupported bull.

Uh... Didn't Dooku waste Mace in the Clone Wars cartoon on Boz Pity?

Originally posted by Moff Tarkin
Uh... Didn't Dooku waste Mace in the Clone Wars cartoon on Boz Pity?

1) Mace and Dooku are never seen together in the cartoons.

2) The fight occurred in When They Were Brothers.

3) Mace and Dooku duel, but nobody gets ''wasted.'' Dooku's MagnaGuards catch Mace by surprise and drag him off of the edge of a cliff before the duel can be concluded.

Originally posted by zod360
By looking at your original username, I can tell that you are a Dooku fanboy. Mace is simply better then him in all ways. He is more powerful in the force then Dooku, he has more control over the force, he has more knowledge of the force, he is better at defending against force powers, he is in better shape and he is a better duelist. All these things are not unfounded.

HAHAHA! They are!

That's why I don't even need to reply to that load of shit you just handed me.

Okay fine. I'll play do.

"Lol! dooku is better, more powerful in teh force, better lightsaber duelist, has shown to be more powerful! Better at pwning peeps. lol! I winzorz!111"

^ That's not how it works.

Faunus I'm simply bringing up the point that Mace and Yoda were the greatest in the order and were considered unmatched in saber combat, not only in their time but for centuries.

I didn't support that because I had already done so in previous posts and didn't really feel like repeating myself. Funny how you ignored my earlier posts in which I explained everything.

"When They Were Brothers" is an infinity or no?

What a crap fight. Dooku either sabre rapes them all or has fun tossing them around like ragdolls.

Dooku wins...

Originally posted by Moff Tarkin
"When They Were Brothers" is an infinity or no?

It's part of the Clone Wars comic series. Not the queer, toony ones, but the actualt comics. So yes, it's acceptably canon.

Dooku merely tapped Anakin and he flew into the closest wall. He was sitting on his side watching Kenobi get picked up, choked for a second, thrown across the room, smashed against a railing as Dooku applied the Force for at least five-seven seconds to crush Kenobi.

It took Anakin at least a total of ten-twelve seconds to get back up after that one kick.

And he was watching it all go down.


Dooku kicked him hard, what you you mean tapped him? Dooku's strong as hell, for a human.

How is the Cartoon not more canon than LOE? The Cartoon was perfectly accurate and was a Lucas production. The Book was not a Lucas production.

James Luceno was allowed to read a copy of the ROTS script beforew writing Labrinth of Evil. The book if the official lead-in to ROTS.

All he'd have to do is compact his lungs with one quick force grip.

You see what happened to Anakin in AotC? One short blast of Sith Lightning and Anakin was across the room on the ground with smoke seeping off of his clothing.

Either Dooku sticks out a hand and zaps Grievous to shit, virtually melting his organs, eyes, synthetic brains, f*cks up his wiring . . .

Kind of like the Vader effect on RotJ, except twice as worse.


Except your assuming the others will just stand still and watch him do this.

It took Mace less than a second to do a quick grab on Grievous chest and he is a Jedi that rarely uses Grips and probably doesn't use them often or wouldn't have mastered them like a Sith lord.

Except Mace had to fight him lightsaber to lightsaber to beat him, in LOE, the more canon source.

Originally posted by PurpleSaber
Wow, trio pwns.