Prove creationism...I'll shut up!

Started by Blue nocturne63 pages

QUOTE=1167532]Originally posted by The Omega
Julibug> Okay, because a handful of scientist doubt an established fact, doesn’t prove the fact to be wrong. I’m linking to some sites, since otherwise I’d take op 10 pages 😄

Our good Grasse is simply wrong. Mutations DO produce evolution from one species to another. There are several ways to evolve as a species, mutation is only one of them.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mutations.html

"In the broadest sense, evolution is merely change, and so is all-pervasive; galaxies, languages, and political systems all evolve. Biological evolution ... is change in the properties of populations of organisms that transcend the lifetime of a single individual. The ontogeny of an individual is not considered evolution; individual organisms do not evolve. The changes in populations that are considered evolutionary are those that are inheritable via the genetic material from one generation to the next. Biological evolution may be slight or substantial; it embraces everything from slight changes in the proportion of different alleles within a population (such as those determining blood types) to the successive alterations that led from the earliest protoorganism to snails, bees, giraffes, and dandelions."
- Douglas J. Futuyma in Evolutionary Biology, Sinauer Associates 1986

Here you can read why evolution is a fact btw http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html. So Michael Denton is wrong.

You wrote: ’Information theorist Hubert Yockey writes, "One must conclude that, contrary to the established and current wisdom, a scenario describing the genesis of life on earth by chance and natural causes which can be accepted on the basis of fact and not faith has not yet been written." ’
He even admits that evolution is an established fact/wisdom. Again, scientists do not claim life evolved by random chance. Reread my previous posts.
About Darwin saying something about divinity: Would you tell me where you got that quote from, please? I’m pretty sure Darwin never said that. Someone called Dawkin may have, but he’s not Charles Darwin.

Palaeontology: I once again suggest you read up on fossilisation and how difficult it is for a dead animal/plant to become a fossil. And realise, that complete transitional fossil without morphological gaps exist.

Genetics: Here http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/modern-synthesis.html ALL you want to know.

Mathematics: Okay, AGAIN: Scientists do not say life evolved by random chance. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/

Scientific evidence for macroevolution: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
Evidence for human evolution: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/
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Here's some garbage they posted.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
QUOTE=1167532]Originally posted by The Omega
[B]Julibug> Okay, because a handful of scientist doubt an established fact, doesn’t prove the fact to be wrong. I’m linking to some sites, since otherwise I’d take op 10 pages 😄

Our good Grasse is simply wrong. Mutations DO produce evolution from one species to another. There are several ways to evolve as a species, mutation is only one of them.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mutations.html

"In the broadest sense, evolution is merely change, and so is all-pervasive; galaxies, languages, and political systems all evolve. Biological evolution ... is change in the properties of populations of organisms that transcend the lifetime of a single individual. The ontogeny of an individual is not considered evolution; individual organisms do not evolve. The changes in populations that are considered evolutionary are those that are inheritable via the genetic material from one generation to the next. Biological evolution may be slight or substantial; it embraces everything from slight changes in the proportion of different alleles within a population (such as those determining blood types) to the successive alterations that led from the earliest protoorganism to snails, bees, giraffes, and dandelions."
- Douglas J. Futuyma in Evolutionary Biology, Sinauer Associates 1986

Here you can read why evolution is a fact btw http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html. So Michael Denton is wrong.

You wrote: ’Information theorist Hubert Yockey writes, "One must conclude that, contrary to the established and current wisdom, a scenario describing the genesis of life on earth by chance and natural causes which can be accepted on the basis of fact and not faith has not yet been written." ’
He even admits that evolution is an established fact/wisdom. Again, scientists do not claim life evolved by random chance. Reread my previous posts.
About Darwin saying something about divinity: Would you tell me where you got that quote from, please? I’m pretty sure Darwin never said that. Someone called Dawkin may have, but he’s not Charles Darwin.

Palaeontology: I once again suggest you read up on fossilisation and how difficult it is for a dead animal/plant to become a fossil. And realise, that complete transitional fossil without morphological gaps exist.

Genetics: Here http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/modern-synthesis.html ALL you want to know.

Mathematics: Okay, AGAIN: Scientists do not say life evolved by random chance. http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/

Scientific evidence for macroevolution: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/
Evidence for human evolution: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/

Here's some garbage they posted.

I don't believe in chance. The universe has karma, and we are the result. ID but not Christianity.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't believe in chance. The universe has karma, and we are the result. ID but not Christianity.

I agree hindu ID is intresting too you should check it out.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I agree hindu ID is intresting too you should check it out.

I'm Buddhist.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm Buddhist.

Regardless don't limit yourself to titles cross studying is helpful.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
Regardless don't limit yourself to titles cross studying is helpful.

I'm sorry, what I was trying to tell you is I'm aware of it.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm sorry, what I was trying to tell you is I'm aware of it.

Oh ok.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2762997832693663864&q=fundamentalism&pl=true

Originally posted by Captain Falcon
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2762997832693663864&q=fundamentalism&pl=true

Falcon this is a debate notice that I haven't linked you to anysites unlike you debate me and my claims or don't stop linking me I can't debate asite or watch a long video.

you can't even write a sentance, yet you expect me to take your views and knowledge seriously? You said evolution is a religion with no facts -- wrong. You also said ID is based on facts. Tell me the facts on creation. I wanna see them.

Originally posted by Captain Falcon
you can't even write a sentance, yet you expect me to take your views and knowledge seriously? You said evolution is a religion with no facts -- wrong. You also said ID is based on facts. Tell me the facts on creation. I wanna see them.

You Didn't even spell sentence right by the way, And I'm tired of repeating myself everytime I've typed my facts in the evolution thread read it. the only rebuttal you have is to attack creationist, Despite the fact that I've told you I'm not one.

WHAT?!?! I've supported evolution. Your confusing the two. What a surpise :rollleyes: again, evolution isn't to be mentioned in this thread. Not because I don't want to be proved wrong at evolution. I want the evidence and facts that support creation and I still haven't seen any. What is the SCIENTIFIC evidence, for ID?

Originally posted by Captain Falcon
WHAT?!?! I've supported evolution. Your confusing the two. What a surpise :rollleyes: again, evolution isn't to be mentioned in this thread. Not because I don't want to be proved wrong at evolution. I want the evidence and facts that support creation and I still haven't seen any. What is the SCIENTIFIC evidence, for ID?

It isn't to be mentioned yet you agreed to debate me on darwinism, which is evolution by the way.

stop bashing evolution like the fundamentalist you are. Show me the proff on ID, oh that's right. THRE ISN'T ANY.

Originally posted by Captain Falcon
stop bashing evolution like the fundamentalist you are. Show me the proff on ID, oh that's right. THRE ISN'T ANY.

I'm not bashing evolution,I don't hate the theory and I'm not a fundamentalist and as for proof don't know much because I haven't researched it, and by the way there isn't much proof for evolution either.

it HAPPENS! How's that 4 proof.

Originally posted by Da preacher
it HAPPENS! How's that 4 proof.

😆

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
I'm not bashing evolution,I don't hate the theory and I'm not a fundamentalist and as for proof don't know much because I haven't researched it, and by the way there isn't much proof for evolution either.
OMG you really are stupid. Have you heard of fossils? We don't guess it y'know. /And even if there was no proof, atleast it makes more sense than creation.

Originally posted by Blue nocturne
😆

READ a book.

U no? with letters in it. Some of them even depict the interesting story of the evolution of a primate (the missing link) in2 man also known as Homo sapiens sapiens.

How's this 4 a proof:

Originally posted by Da preacher
READ a book.

U no? with letters in it. Some of them even depict the interesting story of the evolution of a primate (the missing link) in2 man also Idiot.

Please tell us what book to read. 🙄

Please don't say "read a book" it sounds insulting.