Prove creationism...I'll shut up!

Originally posted by inimalist
my mistake, I thought you brought that up

not to me you haven't. If you want to be as philosophical as possible, I don't trust my sensory systems, and would not be surprised at all if something I saw to be real was not.

However, you could run a large enough battery of tests, have it confirmed by other independent tests, and eventually convince me that something tree-like does exist.

no, you haven't even come close.

You have shown me a gerbil, then said there is no tree. You have proven nothing. Even if we assume that you are being truthful, I am relying on your ability to detect trees, and you aren't perfect, nor do I know that you have searched everywhere exhaustively.

you cannot "prove", using science or formal logic, that something does not exist.

so, to you, there is a time when scientists can say "We have looked hard enough and we now know what is 100% true"?

Okay then I will simplfy even further...

I smash your fash against the tree = tree exsist. No fuzzy wuzzy talk about perceptions or anything like that just a normal big brown thing with leaves.

Now if I smash your face against thin air and tell you there is no tree there, I have proven that there is no tree in that space. Or disproven that there is a tree there. Either way it comes out the same.

Tree or no tree. Not all that difficult really.

Originally posted by Beliver
Okay then I will simplfy even further...

I smash your fash against the tree = tree exsist. No fuzzy wuzzy talk about perceptions or anything like that just a normal big brown thing with leaves.

Touch is a form of perception. You're falling apart pretty quick.

Originally posted by Beliver
Okay then I will simplfy even further...

I smash your fash against the tree = tree exsist. No fuzzy wuzzy talk about perceptions or anything like that just a normal big brown thing with leaves.

Now if I smash your face against thin air and tell you there is no tree there, I have proven that there is no tree in that space. Or disproven that there is a tree there. Either way it comes out the same.

Tree or no tree. Not all that difficult really.

Originally posted by Quark_666
Tough talkers. I love 'em

Whos talking tough?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Touch is a form of perception. You're falling apart pretty quick.

Still doesnt remove the point that I can show that the tree exsists in one instance and doesnt in the other.

Originally posted by Beliver
Okay then I will simplfy even further...

I smash your fash against the tree = tree exsist. No fuzzy wuzzy talk about perceptions or anything like that just a normal big brown thing with leaves.

Now if I smash your face against thin air and tell you there is no tree there, I have proven that there is no tree in that space. Or disproven that there is a tree there. Either way it comes out the same.

Tree or no tree. Not all that difficult really.

so by not hitting my face off a tree you have proven there isn't one there?

this is the EXACT same concept as every other example. what if I missed? what if you missed? what if you didn't see the tree?

they might sound silly, but each of those things has a probability greater than 0, making it impossible for the probability of there being no tree to be 1.

EDIT: LOL, and ya, lets not make this about sensory perception

Originally posted by inimalist
so by not hitting my face off a tree you have proven there isn't one there?

this is the EXACT same concept as every other example. what if I missed? what if you missed? what if you didn't see the tree?

they might sound silly, but each of those things has a probability greater than 0, making it impossible for the probability of there being no tree to be 1.

EDIT: LOL, and ya, lets not make this about sensory perception

Okay the tree is a giant red wood so no chance of me missing it on the tree/face interfacing and no chance of not seeing it.

Originally posted by Beliver
Okay the tree is a giant red wood so no chance of me missing it on the tree/face interfacing and no chance of not seeing it.

So anyway:

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So anyway:

Whos trolling?

Originally posted by Beliver
Okay the tree is a giant red wood so no chance of me missing it on the tree/face interfacing and no chance of not seeing it.

an interesting train of thought, but human error is impossible to eliminate from any equation

*sigh*

Nothing is more aggravating is when dumb people hijack a valid argument and turn it into mush.

Just use your reason and just think about this question, do you really think you just evolved from the primordial soup or did you have a Creator. I am afraid you were created , yes you and every life force on this Planet , Including this Planet and the Cosmos.

You are an Incredible Creation it's too bad you don't notice it.

Originally posted by edisonik
Just use your reason and just think about this question, do you really think you just evolved from the primordial soup or did you have a Creator. I am afraid you were created , yes you and every life force on this Planet , Including this Planet and the Cosmos.

You are an Incredible Creation it's too bad you don't notice it.

Yes....all that evidence of creation...

Anyway...I do notice the incredibleness. I am, in fact, much more incredibly than you, simply because I as a human am a being create by and for this planet, a great rarity over billions of years.

You, on the other hand, are just some alien's science/social experiment.

Originally posted by edisonik
Just use your reason and just think about this question, do you really think you just evolved from the primordial soup or did you have a Creator. I am afraid you were created , yes you and every life force on this Planet , Including this Planet and the Cosmos.

You are an Incredible Creation it's too bad you don't notice it.

....reasoning....

....reasoning....

....reasoning....

....reasoning....

....reasoning....

....reasoning....

...reasoning done...

I evolved from the soup, the universe wasn't created 6,000 years ago?

Originally posted by edisonik
Just use your reason and just think about this question, do you really think you just evolved from the primordial soup or did you have a Creator. I am afraid you were created , yes you and every life force on this Planet , Including this Planet and the Cosmos.

You are an Incredible Creation it's too bad you don't notice it.

Originally posted by edisonik
Just use your reason and just think about this question, do you really think you just evolved from the primordial soup or did you have a Creator. I am afraid you were created , yes you and every life force on this Planet , Including this Planet and the Cosmos.

You are an Incredible Creation it's too bad you don't notice it.

What is your proof?

Originally posted by Beliver
But given Man's thirst for knowledge and advancement would he eventually develope the technology to measure the ethereal?

Yes....all that evidence of creation...

Peripheral Question: What evidence would be necessary to falsify creationism, in either of its Young Earth Flood Geology or Intelligent Design incarnations?

God would have to admit he didn't do it.