i have a fair question. its not that difficult for us christians to prove there is a god and that he created us because i can see that all around me. but how can u guys prove that ur evolution belief is correct?? answer me this question plz and dont answer me with time related mumbo jumbo. If species are evolving, how come we don't see any doggie-cats? How about monkey-bats? Why I don't even see an ant with a human head or anything in nature that is in the process of evolving into something else. My cat is still a cat and has never evolved into a pig. Examine your pets. Maybe your parakeet or parrot is evolving into a buffalo? Do you see any buffalo fur on it? I do not see any practical, common-sense, evidence of any evolution taking place. It it were, we are bound to see some animals of the millions on earth "evolving" into a new life form. All the zoo animals I see in the zoos are not evolving. It ain't happening folks! Show me the proof. Show me the evidence. So far, God has shown his hand. He said he created the creatures and his creatures are visible proof of what he said has become visible before your very eyes. Now show me proof that evolution is real. I want to see it for myself. I want real evidence that would be held up in any court of law. Not speculation or theory... real proof. Now don't be a Human Baboon about this subject or you will demonstrate yourself as proof-positive that some sort of dehumanizing evolution is taking place. Be sensible and respectful. It is a good question. How come we see not one evidence of any mammal, human or beast evolving? Seems to me, there is no evolution taking place except in the fantasy of the mind, the dreamer of dreams. Present the evidence to the judge so the jury can see the evidence and make a reasonable decision. Present actual evidence, not hearsay or preponderance. The real thing is needed. Can you deliver?
Originally posted by love for god
i have a fair question. its not that difficult for us christians to prove there is a god and that he created us because i can see that all around me. but how can u guys prove that ur evolution belief is correct?? answer me this question plz and dont answer me with time related mumbo jumbo. If species are evolving, how come we don't see any doggie-cats? How about monkey-bats? Why I don't even see an ant with a human head or anything in nature that is in the process of evolving into something else. My cat is still a cat and has never evolved into a pig. Examine your pets. Maybe your parakeet or parrot is evolving into a buffalo? Do you see any buffalo fur on it? I do not see any practical, common-sense, evidence of any evolution taking place. It it were, we are bound to see some animals of the millions on earth "evolving" into a new life form. All the zoo animals I see in the zoos are not evolving. It ain't happening folks! Show me the proof. Show me the evidence. So far, God has shown his hand. He said he created the creatures and his creatures are visible proof of what he said has become visible before your very eyes. Now show me proof that evolution is real. I want to see it for myself. I want real evidence that would be held up in any court of law. Not speculation or theory... real proof. Now don't be a Human Baboon about this subject or you will demonstrate yourself as proof-positive that some sort of dehumanizing evolution is taking place. Be sensible and respectful. It is a good question. How come we see not one evidence of any mammal, human or beast evolving? Seems to me, there is no evolution taking place except in the fantasy of the mind, the dreamer of dreams. Present the evidence to the judge so the jury can see the evidence and make a reasonable decision. Present actual evidence, not hearsay or preponderance. The real thing is needed. Can you deliver?
Because it is all around me.
Let me clarify: Evolution is a slow process of change over a vast time span. Just look at the dogs. In a very shout time humans have been able to manipulate the shape of a dogs like clay. If we do this to dogs for the next million years then what we end up with will not be a dog anymore.
Originally posted by love for godi'm sensing we've got a kent hovind fan in our midst.
i have a fair question. its not that difficult for us christians to prove there is a god and that he created us because i can see that all around me. but how can u guys prove that ur evolution belief is correct?? answer me this question plz and dont answer me with time related mumbo jumbo. If species are evolving, how come we don't see any doggie-cats? How about monkey-bats? Why I don't even see an ant with a human head or anything in nature that is in the process of evolving into something else. My cat is still a cat and has never evolved into a pig. Examine your pets. Maybe your parakeet or parrot is evolving into a buffalo? Do you see any buffalo fur on it? I do not see any practical, common-sense, evidence of any evolution taking place. It it were, we are bound to see some animals of the millions on earth "evolving" into a new life form. All the zoo animals I see in the zoos are not evolving. It ain't happening folks! Show me the proof. Show me the evidence. So far, God has shown his hand. He said he created the creatures and his creatures are visible proof of what he said has become visible before your very eyes. Now show me proof that evolution is real. I want to see it for myself. I want real evidence that would be held up in any court of law. Not speculation or theory... real proof. Now don't be a Human Baboon about this subject or you will demonstrate yourself as proof-positive that some sort of dehumanizing evolution is taking place. Be sensible and respectful. It is a good question. How come we see not one evidence of any mammal, human or beast evolving? Seems to me, there is no evolution taking place except in the fantasy of the mind, the dreamer of dreams. Present the evidence to the judge so the jury can see the evidence and make a reasonable decision. Present actual evidence, not hearsay or preponderance. The real thing is needed. Can you deliver?
Originally posted by Shakyamunisonhe said none of that time mumbo jumbo!
Because it is all around me.Let me clarify: Evolution is a slow process of change over a vast time span. Just look at the dogs. In a very shout time humans have been able to manipulate the shape of a dogs like clay. If we do this to dogs for the next million years then what we end up with will not be a dog anymore.
Originally posted by love for god
its not that difficult for us christians to prove there is a god and that he created us because i can see that all around me. but how can u guys prove that ur evolution belief is correct??
how do you define proof? lol
Originally posted by love for god
plz and dont answer me with time related mumbo jumbo. If species are evolving, how come we don't see any doggie-cats? How about monkey-bats? Why I don't even see an ant with a human head or anything in nature that is in the process of evolving into something else.
/facepalm
anyways, we see it with bacteria and viruses all the time, some viruses, like HIV, depend on producing evolutionary bottlenecks within their host environment to move from one stage to the next... wait, how many words in that sentence make sense to you?
Originally posted by love for god
I want real evidence that would be held up in any court of law. Not speculation or theory... real proof.
I take it you are unfamiliar with the Dover trial then?
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/evolution/intelligent-design-trial.html
click the image to watch the vid, really interesting. Evolution beats ID, in a court of law, using "real evidence", SHOCKING!!!!
[the judge was a staunch republican too]
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
inimalist, good job, you did that without talking about "that time mumbo jumbo!"I'm surprised he didn't say no virus talk, or court cases. 😄
Columbia university put up a course worth of lectures on Virology. The whole thing is amazing, but I'm going to specifically put up the one about evolution because it captivated me to the point where I was just staring at it with my mouth open.
Evolution and selection principles are the cornerstone not just of how viruses work, but of how our immune system works. There could be no viruses or sickness if there were no evolution. Its a little different than other evolution (bacteria for instance) because viruses only ever form what are called "pseudo-species". They are only the same species because there is a general pattern of genetics shared by them, but an infection is going to evolve to be specifically designed to its host organism, essentially creating a new virus species within each person (or, even potentially within each infected cell within a host).
Something like the flu has so many genes which change through replication, while still being a "flu virus", that there are literally more potential "flu viruses" than there are atoms in the universe.
The part about HIV moving from one stage to the next by changing the host organisms body to the point that it only selects for viruses almost entirely different than those which initially infect the host is astounding. Nothing in the universe works like that...
Originally posted by inimalist
Columbia university put up a course worth of lectures on Virology. The whole thing is amazing, but I'm going to specifically put up the one about evolution because it captivated me to the point where I was just staring at it with my mouth open.Evolution and selection principles are the cornerstone not just of how viruses work, but of how our immune system works. There could be no viruses or sickness if there were no evolution. Its a little different than other evolution (bacteria for instance) because viruses only ever form what are called "pseudo-species". They are only the same species because there is a general pattern of genetics shared by them, but an infection is going to evolve to be specifically designed to its host organism, essentially creating a new virus species within each person (or, even potentially within each infected cell within a host).
Something like the flu has so many genes which change through replication, while still being a "flu virus", that there are literally more potential "flu viruses" than there are atoms in the universe.
The part about HIV moving from one stage to the next by changing the host organisms body to the point that it only selects for viruses almost entirely different than those which initially infect the host is astounding. Nothing in the universe works like that...
I will have to check out the youtube later tonight.
We can't prove that God created the universe anymore than you can prove the Big Bang created everything it is by faith that we believe God is creator and do you seriously believe that the universe was made by a simple hydrogen ion I don't think so not with the things some complex as a human being prove to me that the Big Bang made everything
I think that creationism and evolutionism are more intertwined then some realize. None should be denied in logical context.
In case of creationism, people typically do not understand that how it naturally happens and accept it by faith. However, in case of evolutionism, the process is scientifically observed and explained.