Originally posted by BloodRain
Countering = a physical block.
Repelling his arm away = strength to do so.
Movement = .....movement.
What you're on about is the movement that hasn't got much to do with the actual strength feat. Again, mid air movement is a FF thing. Its a reach to try use it to downplay the feat.
Now, while we're on about double standards, the anti-Link community has argued against TP as the strongest Link based on the following:
Alternate forms.
This scene you're arguing in favour provides instances of the following:
Alternate forms, blatant disregard for physics, inconsistency in the form of Sora not normally needing to ****ing hover to do something. 😬 Ahem.
And no, changing course in mid-air is an Omnislash thing, and one that mostly appears in the movie for FF7. Most characters who do it can fly.
I knew you were driving at this but theres a large chunk missing; comparing -magical lightning formed by magic that doesn't have the same functions or appearance of rl lightning- to -Sora 'magically' moving in mid air which means he must... no, actually I cant even guess what the point is here to negate the strength feat... there isnt one is there? 😐 Bad comparison.
Bad comparison #2: Ganon changing into a form to gain strength [obv] to Sora becoming a cub to.. gain strength as well?
Originally posted by BloodRain
Im sorry but the idea that he gains strength in that form is a better one then to just gain range..
He has full access to the ToP's power, it doesn't just have some reserve that makes him EVEN STRONGAR! 😬
Edit: I'm sure aLttP Link is stronger as a bunny, too. 😛
The sheer size and bulk, the change from magical attacks to purely physical. Link can match Dorf's attacks when it takes Link and Midna to counter a charging Ganon.
And tbh if it wasn't for this argument being the only thing to give TP Link strength you would be saying the exact thing to give Ganon the strength boost he actually gets.
Sooo are we settled on Sora being stronger or what.
1. Not in OoT/Tp besides a small fire show, his attacks are physical.
2. His size, bulk and forms heavily suggest this or there'd be no point in transforming.
Link's the legs and Midna's the arms, he couldn't do it solo.
Why not? Smacking the block makes them even, matching Herc shows he can apparently take any of Link's attacks, nothing discredits the Groundshaker besides the previous troll attempt and lastly besting Lexaeus.
Thats 1 to match, 1 to defend from and 2 to best Link's strength.
Originally posted by BloodRain
Talking about the mid air movement, isnt that the issue people want here?
My issue is that the Groundshaker is pressing against Sora and Sora is pressing against...air? I'm saying that whatever force is keeping Sora airborn may also be affecting the Groundshaker. The mid air course change is just more of the same.
What I'm seeing is: Groundshaker vs. Sora + mysterious antigravity force. It appears that Sora is either unwilling or unable to do the same feat while bracing against the ground; else, he wouldn't need to dodge stomps. If you want to say that Sora could overpower Link in mid air, that's fine. Just don't try it on the ground.
Also, Ganon could appear stronger if he has more mass behind his strength, correct? It'd be a net increase in total energy.
@Neph: Nope, Simba doesn't get any interaction scene with it.
@Scene: Thing is there is no hypothetical force you're talking about. Only exists to the people that want it to. When Cloud attacks Seph he's staying airborne in one position doing a few clashes until pushed back, Im sure he doesn't have some magical force aiding him. Its just a FF thing. Theres no evidence for this fictitious theory.
'Just don't try it on the ground.' <- All that lacks soo much logic.