Sora(Kingdom Hearts) vs Link(Legend of Zelda)

Oh...I see. Thought you were talking about the movie.

I'm thinking of the great big fire ball that Cloud went through. 😮

@Neph: Nope, Simba doesn't get any interaction scene with it.

Mufasa?

Nope.

Oh yeah, forgot about that scene.

Mufasa's dead by then :V

Man, Mufasa's like, the most useless king who happens to be a lion ever. Just ****ing pawful.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
There is something we humans do that require us to overcome something with no level ground to stand on. What is it?

I'm tired. Hint?

Thing is there is no hypothetical force you're talking about. Only exists to the people that want it to. When Cloud attacks Seph he's staying airborne in one position doing a few clashes until pushed back, Im sure he doesn't have some magical force aiding him. Its just a FF thing. Theres no evidence for this fictitious theory.

See, I'm not sure why you're trying to shift this onto Cloud or Sephiroth, since if I saw the scene I'd likely have the same exact problem with it. Handwaving it as "a FF thing" does not make the problem go away, at least not to me. Further, if I'm picturing the scene you describe correctly, Sephiroth is not pushing Cloud in a downward direction, and said push is not being stopped in mid air by nothing.
With the Groundshaker, it is pushing downward on Sora, and Sora is not being moved, despite having nothing to brace against or otherwise prevent such movement. I honestly don't care about the course change at this point, it's about the fact that Sora is floating in mid air despite being acted on by an outside force. There is nothing else there to make this work, and claiming that Sora is strong because of it is faulty for this reason.

It does not make sense.

'Just don't try it on the ground.' <- All that lacks soo much logic.

I feel like I missed something, but can't identify it right now. Sora staying airborne despite being acted on in a downward direction on translates to physical strength how?

And claiming Sora is several times stronger then normal when he doesn't touch the floor is a worse claim. 😬

At the end of the day he knocks it back, no matter what its a strength feat.

Can someone sum up for me what the current retarded argument is from both sides? Too tired to read all these pages.

That Sora gains magical strength only when he's in midair.

wut.

Originally posted by The Scenario
I'm tired. Hint?

...There aren't that many things...

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Can someone sum up for me what the current retarded argument is from both sides? Too tired to read all these pages.

MooCow: I can't stop being biased so I'mma start trolling.
Scream: *Guzzle guzzle guzzle*
BR: Aura is a BAMF.
Scenario: /Intelligence.
Nephthys: Am I for Sora or Link here? I'm not telling.
Aura: *faps*

When he clashes with the Groundshaker the clash lasts for a few seconds with Sora in mid air, FF style. Being said that theres a magical/anti gravity... something in place that to aid his strength. Thats being used to say that its not a strength feat he can replicate in this fight.

Originally posted by BloodRain
And claiming Sora is several times stronger then normal when he doesn't touch the floor is a worse claim. 😬

I'm not claiming he's stronger. Just that it does not make sense for him to become immovable in mid air.

At the end of the day he knocks it back, no matter what its a strength feat.

Yet there is clearly something else at work there. I would like to know what it is.

I'm not claiming he's stronger. Just that it does not make sense for him to become immovable in mid air.

The only thing is the anime-esk FF style of combat that KH follows. If this force doesnt have anything to do with the strength needed to deflect the GS, why is it an issue? I can understand wanting to know the mechanics of this but not if its only to downplay the feat.

For ****s sake, people, its called a mechanic. It's the same reason why Kratos can get hit by super strong attacks and not get knocked 300 feet back.

Nephthys: Am I for Sora or Link here? I'm not telling.

Dunno. On the one hand teh Link wank on this forum has severely crippled any hope of compassion for the character, but Sora is so goddamn anime it makes my balls bleed.

Though it was my impression that Sora was several magnitudes faster than Link.

Spoiler:
ZOMG ZE LIGHTNING-TENNIS!

By LLLC logic, he is.

And you've never seen an anime character like Sora that you like? 😮

Originally posted by BloodRain
''If you want to say that Sora could overpower Link in mid air, that's fine. Just don't try it on the ground.'' Sounded like it.

Well, Link doesn't typically fight in mid air. Sora apparently does not need anything to brace against, so Link would be disadvantaged there. On the ground, Link does have something to brace against, and I'm not going to go further on their respective strengths beyond that point.

The only thing is the anime-esk FF style of combat that KH follows. If this force doesnt have anything to do with the strength needed to deflect the GS, why is it an issue? I can understand wanting to know the mechanics of this but not if its only to downplay the feat.

I'm just confused about how it works. I was pointing out the fact that Sora is floating in mid air, and that it LOOKS like it has something to do with the feat. Sora is not being suspended in mid air through main strength, and I do not see how remaining in mid air is a strength feat for him.

By LLLC logic, he is.

And you've never seen an anime character like Sora that you like? 😮

I like anime but that doesn't mean anime genericness doesn't piss me off as much as the next guy. Plus I tend to detest child protagonists, expecially super-powered ones.

Then compare Sora to Jason and Odysseus. He just wants to find something and then go home. 😮