Sora(Kingdom Hearts) vs Link(Legend of Zelda)

Started by BloodRain116 pages

Reaction commands are not gameplay mechanics.

Originally posted by Cyner
Link cannot be damaged by Ganon with Nayru's love activated.

Don't need to go check cause i've played the game 1000000000000 times.

But did you use it on him without getting the Great fairy's 1/2 damage defense upgrade?

http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Nayru%27s_Love

"The sole enemy that can cause damage while Nayru's Love is in use is Ganon, though the effect of his attacks will still be lessened."

So yeah....I'm more inclined to believe the Wiki.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Reaction commands are indeed gameplay mechanics.

That being said, Sora doesn't need any of the reaction command attacks to defeat Link. Timega+graviga for the effortless gg.

Link's immune to time shenanigans, SS proved this.

Ganon can't hurt Link with Nayru's love, only knock him around.

How is one "immune to time shenanigans"? I smell either a limitless fallacy coming on or a lack of understanding of what a time stop means.

I don't know who or what SS is/means. Skyward Sword?

Aren't all Links different though?

Sora would trash composite link.

As would Kerrigan. ... I need a smary looking custom smiley. 131 doesn't work in all situations.

Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
How is one "immune to time shenanigans"? I smell either a limitless fallacy coming on or a lack of understanding of what a time stop means.

I don't know who or what SS is/means. Skyward Sword?

I think it means that they can't be frozen in time. It doesn't make sense. Neither did Sol Badguy from Guilty Gear surviving his past self being killed through sheer manly willpower. But that happened.

That said, I do not know the instance Shin means, so I can't say.

Tough to explain. In Skyward Sword, particularly the Lanayru areas, there are several crystals called Timeshift Stones that mess with time. Hitting the crystal creates a small area that goes back in time and reverses events. For instance, what is a pile of bones in the present was a living thing in the past, so hitting the crystal sends the area to a point before said creature's death, back when it was alive. If an enemy in the present is near one when it activates, they just disappear since they didn't exist yet, or they go back to a baby form in the case of really old ones.

Link is not affected by any of this, even if he isn't the one that activated the stone.

Sounds like it has more to do with Link hitting the crystals than being immune to anything.

Yeah, but there are a few that Link finds that were already active. At that point it's harder to justify.

If they were already active then he wouldn't have been near them when they were activated, right? So he wouldn't have been affected by it to begin with.

If I understand your post.

Originally posted by Nephthys
If they were already active then he wouldn't have been near them when they were activated, right? So he wouldn't have been affected by it to begin with.

If I understand your post.

You carry these around, and bringing them within range of monsters affects them just the same, it doesn't matter when or who turned the stone on, the stone sends you back in time if you're near it, unless you happen to be Link.

The enemy AI even accounts for this and runs the hell away if you're carrying one, lol.

Took me longer to find this than I thought it would. Hopefully this will help me explain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjBwnmXU_k#t=1m14s

The "timeshift" is a continuous effect, so like Scream said you don't have to be in the area when it's activated to be affected. If it's active, entering the area afterwards, or in this case having the area moved, still makes things disappear if they didn't exist at the time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNhwBrFmDjk#t=7m35
^ This is Link entering the area of a Timeshift Orb. Exactly the same properties as the Timeshift Stones (the orb being made of the stone), except it's always active. Meaning Link can't exactly activate one. Yet it still unmakes creatures other than Link that enter the area.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Nayru%27s_Love

"The sole enemy that can cause damage while Nayru's Love is in use is Ganon, though the effect of his attacks will still be lessened."

So yeah....I'm more inclined to believe the Wiki.

This wiki doesn't say that: http://zeldawiki.org/Nayru%27s_Love#Nayru.27s_Love

I'm more inclined to believe the fanboy who played the game 9001 times

Did said fanboy opt-out on the defence upgrade?

Both pretty much say sora can't do any damage to link while he's in it so does it really matter.

On the contrary. One says Ganon can still get damage through, so the stronger Sora will as well. The other says nothing at all, a no-limits fallacy, with the best thing to measure its resistance being Ganon's strikes.

So its either just below or somewhat above Ganon. Both below Sora.

It says gannon is the only one to get through, not gannons the only one strong enough to get through. So unless sora has a name change ability he ain't touching the elf

Originally posted by Cyner
This wiki doesn't say that: http://zeldawiki.org/Nayru%27s_Love#Nayru.27s_Love

I'm more inclined to believe the fanboy who played the game 9001 times

http://www.zeldadungeon.net/wiki/Nayru%27s_Love

And that site says that Ganon can. So it's your word vs theirs. A video would solve all the problems but...I couldn't find any. Meh.

Originally posted by NotAllThatEvil
It says gannon is the only one to get through, not gannons the only one strong enough to get through. So unless sora has a name change ability he ain't touching the elf

Lol seriously? haermm

With boosted defense
gannon 2 hearts
iron knuckle 4
i'm serious