Originally posted by King_Mungi
[b]Diamond Lil vs. Spider-Man [AR]
Alpha Flight #74- A wacky alternate reality world Talisman stumpled upon. It's actually a varation of the Dream Queen's world, but Puck commands this plane. Yet at the time Alpha Flight doesn't know it and Puck doesn't know they are here. Here is a summary of the wacky arc that goes to #74 to #75. Anyways here Lil survives a multiple story fall, her body is fine but she still feels the pain and now must battle a perverted Spider-Man. His webbing won't stick to her bio-aura, and an enraged Diamond Lil ends up killing the web-slinger.1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight74-18.jpg
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5. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight74-23.jpg [/B]
Spidey's punches seemed to affect her, so since he is superior in all aspects except durability, i give this fight to him.
Btw, it remains a mystery to me how a woman with normal reflexes and average fighting skills, who discribes her opponent as moving so fast that he's just a blur to her, can grab him despite his spidersense and superior reflexes and throw him into a wall, which breaks his bones, despite the fact, that he's slamming against or even through walls all the time without being severely injured.
Originally posted by golem370
I would say Spider-Man knowing how good she is he would be able to stick and move and take her out like that I mean his reflexes are 15 times better then the average male
Actually 40 times better.
And WTF she killed him by hitting wall with him?
A guy who took Hulk's hits died that easilly. Bullsh!t!
Originally posted by King_MungiShe has super reflexes???
She actually is the same strength as him and has super reflexes. Also she fell over 100 stories and she was fine, she felt pain but her body was fine and right afterwards she fought Spider-Man.
That she can feel pain is all what it takes to bring her down. You can only feel pain, when at least a little damage is done. Just hit her till she gets unconscious from the pain...
Spidey obviously caused her pain in these scans of yours when he was 10 tons class and a bad guy (the only reason why he lost...i bet you know that), now he is 15 tons class and a good guy - he will most certainly win! 😉
Originally posted by wannabe
She has super reflexes???
Well, nonetheless she described Spidey's moves as being a mere blur to her, him being able to dodge every of her strikes - and suddenly she is able to grab this faster man with the spidersense and throws him at a wall with 10 tons class strength (i have to take your word for it) and he instantly dies???!!! You have to admit, that this story's scenario is [B]veeerrryyy far fetched...at best!That she can feel pain is all what it takes to bring her down. You can only feel pain, when at least a little damage is done. Just hit her till she gets unconscious from the pain...
Spidey obviously caused her pain in these scans of yours when he was 10 tons class and a bad guy (the only reason why he lost...i bet you know that), now he is 15 tons class and a good guy - he will most certainly win! 😉 [/B]
No she said "he moved so fast I could hardly see him", nothing about a blur and she grabbed him in mid-air you can't dodge in mid-air. Also she crushed his skull, he doesn't have high durability him taking hits from Hulk are farfetched. It's actually a likely scenario since Spider-Man would have to go melee against her due to his webs won't work.
No one has knocked her out that way, and if falling from 100 stories doesn't do it then Spider-Man is going to have one hell of a time.
She was still hurt from the fall, they even stated that, and she has taken hits from She Hulk and beat her so she is in good company.
1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight74-19.jpg
2. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight74-22.jpg
Originally posted by King_MungiSo "moved so fast I could hardly see him" is better than "being a blur to me"? 🤨
No she said "he moved so fast I could hardly see him", nothing about a blur
Originally posted by King_Mungi1) How was she able to see and react to this particular attack when he was so much faster?
and she grabbed him in [b]mid-air you can't dodge in mid-air. Also she crushed his skull, he doesn't have high durability him taking hits from Hulk are farfetched. It's actually a likely scenario since Spider-Man would have to go melee against her due to his webs won't work.[/B]
Originally posted by King_MungiI said ... will most certainly win, not ...will definitly win.
No one has knocked her out that way, and if falling from 100 stories doesn't do it then Spider-Man is going to have one hell of a time.
She was still hurt from the fall, they even stated that, and she has taken hits from She Hulk and beat her so she is in good company.
Really this is all Spidey would have to do (the principle should still work with organic web shooters):
http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=spidermanvsblob16xu.jpg
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Originally posted by wannabe
So "moved so fast I could hardly see him" is better than "being a blur to me"? 🤨
I always though these are two ways of saying: [B]"HE'S F*CKING FASTER THAN ME!".1) How was she able to see and react to this particular attack when he was so much faster?
2) Spidey still could have bent his leg, so that she would have been unable to grab it.
3) Forget the Hulk feat, simply remember his fights against Green Goblin, Hobgoblin, Venom, Carnage, Doc Oc, Rhino, Titania, Morlun etc. etc. etc.
How many times did he get a full punch into his face by foes who were stronger than him, was he smashed into and through walls - even head forward, did he fall from great heights, did he become squashed by super strong opponents without suffering severe damage...and suddenly there is this far slower 10-tonner, grabbing him and killing him with one swing into a wall???!!!
I understand that you like her and all characters canadien or Alpha Flight related, but really... ❌
I said ... will most certainly win, not ...will definitly win.
Sure DL would not be an easy win for Peter, but he has repeatedly won against more powerful opponents than she is (and i'm not talking of such ridiculous feats like Hulk or Firelord), so... [/B]
Blur means you can't see the person, she still could. Yes he was faster than him, but she still beat him
1) She has heightened reflexes as well, and he did the same move twice she used her head.
2) He was already passed the point of no return, he was commited with the move and why does everyone think with the Spider-sense Spider-Man can't get hit?
3) yes, but did any of them crush his skull? and full fledge Rhino punches or Titania should have killed him, it's the same thing with most of Wolverine's feats. Like Batman he does things he isn't suppose to do, He ISN'T that durable, his powers don't grant him that sort of durability. Oh shut up I hate it when people say that when in many threads I have stated many Alpha FLight characters lose certain battles.
I never said Diamond Lil would win at all in this thread, but you guys are making it like Spider-Man would win so easily. When she herself has gone against worse and prevailed as well.
