Originally posted by mrpress
Thing takes it. No matter how equally they're matched (and I'd probably give durability and endurance to the Thing), at some point during the fight Peter remembers some traumatic memory from his past and goes all X-men angsty. While he's busy crawling into the fetal position from self-pity, Thing clobbers him then lights a cigar and heads off for a beer.😄
Yeah..................... that's what would happen. 🙄
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Your a funny guy. Did you forget that Thing was amped up 100x by Mephisto when he fought those other 99 guys?Him and Juggernaut were normal power when they clashed and Thing even had his confidence boosted when the fight started and still got thrashed. 😆
If my memory is correct only his strength was amped by 100x not his durability nor his fighting skills.
That being said i'm assuming that the other 98 villians had some sort of impact on him when they hit him...
If he truly knew that his strength wasn't amped he wouldn't have been so nonshalaunt about fighting Juggs IMO.
You can see Bens sheer surprise of not being amped still when the fight started.
So whatever confidence he may have had while fighting the other 98 villians it was taken away from the start of the confration...IE. his surprise.
So what is Things most impressive strength feat? Holding the oil rig impressive. But he only held a corner of it.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Thingandoilrig.jpg
Originally posted by snoopdogg
So what is Things most impressive strength feat? Holding the oil rig impressive. But he only held a corner of it.http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Thingandoilrig.jpg
That would be definately be one of them... and it was collapesing so he did have to stop the momentum and upright it... Then at one point he was holding it up with only one hand as he grabed for something to help support it.
He also threw a large galactic spaceship back into space from the ground on the earth with one arm...
He has stalemated CLASSIC THOR in armwrestling for hours until they both called it a draw and both of their arms where sore...
Just a couple...
This one impresses me the most. 😱
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1382/thingnamor35ij.jpg
(Darkcrawler has to love this)
I have been watching the Namor thread for a bit. Thing takes this 6/10.
Originally posted by Dr.CrankensteinYea that strength feat impressed me also. Made me even more convinced Colossus has a chance against Namor on land.
This one impresses me the most. 😱http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1382/thingnamor35ij.jpg
(Darkcrawler has to love this)I have been watching the Namor thread for a bit. Thing takes this 6/10.
However I dissagree with your opinion on this fight. I say Colossus 6/10. Sure Thing has alot of experience but Colossus does also. He's trained harder than Thing has. I mean you don't see many comics with Thing training as hard as Colossus has.
Strength is real close but durability and speed Colossus has hands down. You can look in comics or bios and they both will tell you who is more durable. Take the handbooks for example. They say Things max temp. he can handle is 1500 degrees. Colossus on the other hand can handle 9000 degrees. Then it says Thing can handle 15lbs of TNT. I think Colossus was stated as handling up 450lbs.
Speed and agility go to Colossus also. The only adgantage I see Thing with is the fighting edge. And that is minimal like Colossus' strength advantage.
Originally posted by Tony Stark
He also threw a large galactic spaceship back into space from the ground on the earth with one arm...
Originally posted by Tony Stark
He has stalemated CLASSIC THOR in armwrestling for hours until they both called it a draw and both of their arms where sore...
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Take the handbooks for example. They say Things max temp. he can handle is 1500 degrees. Colossus on the other hand can handle 9000 degrees. Then it says Thing can handle 15lbs of TNT. I think Colossus was stated as handling up 450lbs.
Originally posted by xtrubeastxcs
Actually Marvel directory.com which has been aproved by marvel several times says has Collosus in like 50 60 ton range (cant remember) and the thing in like 80 ton.. the thing is also more durable and has better fighting skills. Thing 9/10
because marvel directory is based off of the old Marvel handbooks, that site is outdated and inaccurate to todays standards.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea that strength feat impressed me also. Made me even more convinced Colossus has a chance against Namor on land.However I dissagree with your opinion on this fight. I say Colossus 6/10. Sure Thing has alot of experience but Colossus does also. He's trained harder than Thing has. I mean you don't see many comics with Thing training as hard as Colossus has.
Strength is real close but durability and speed Colossus has hands down. You can look in comics or bios and they both will tell you who is more durable. Take the handbooks for example. They say Things max temp. he can handle is 1500 degrees. Colossus on the other hand can handle 9000 degrees. Then it says Thing can handle 15lbs of TNT. I think Colossus was stated as handling up 450lbs.
Speed and agility go to Colossus also. The only adgantage I see Thing with is the fighting edge. And that is minimal like Colossus' strength advantage.
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Thats not 15lbs of TNT...
It's a armor piercing shell with 15lbs of powder silly.
And i'm going to bet that Colossus can't run down The Rhino who runs upwards of 50+mph which The THING did no problem.
Bens agility isn't any worse than Colossus i'm sure of that.
What strength feats does Colossus have that can be concidered greater than Ben's...? That you can say without question that he's stronger than Ben is.
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Originally posted by xtrubeastxcs
Actually Marvel directory.com which has been aproved by marvel several times says has Collosus in like 50 60 ton range (cant remember) and the thing in like 80 ton.. the thing is also more durable and has better fighting skills. Thing 9/10
Most likely they just took a quick glance at the various stats, shrugged their shoulders, and said "Eh, close enough."
Originally posted by Tony StarkHere is Things entry:
😕Thats not 15lbs of TNT...
It's a armor piercing shell with 15lbs of powder silly.
And i'm going to bet that Colossus can't run down The Rhino who runs upwards of 50+mph which The THING did no problem.
Bens agility isn't any worse than Colossus i'm sure of that.
What strength feats does Colossus have that can be concidered greater than Ben's...? That you can say without question that he's stronger than Ben is.
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The Thing's body is able to withstand extremes of temperature from -75° to 800° Fahrenheit for up to an hour before exposure or heat prostration occurs. He can withstand the explosive effects of armor-piercing bazooka shells (15 pounds of high explosives) against his skin with no injury. He is still susceptible to colds, disease, and emotional stress.
Here is Colossus' entry:
In his armored form Colossus is highly resistant to most forms of bodily harm. His armor is capable of withstanding ballistic penetration, including that of a 110 millimeter Howitzer shell. He could survive a collision with a loaded, one-ton flatbed truck at 100 miles per hour or an explosion of 450 pounds of TNT. He can survive extremes of temperature from 70 degrees above absolute zero (-390 degrees Fahrenheit) to approximately 9000 Fahrenheit. However, it is theorized that above the latter temperature, his armored form would begin to melt. Colossus's armored form cannot rust under normal Earth conditions.
When did Thing run down Rhino? I have the issue they fought in but do not remember it.
Marvel already said Colossus can lift over 100 tons. Did they say that about Thing yet? If they have I will believe you.
Both guys have lifted stuff over 100 tons. We know that. But has Marvel ever stated that Thing can lift over 100 tons?
Originally posted by Hit and Run
Being approved doesn't mean much. I highly doubt that the people at Marvel examined stats in the handbooks and the websites and checked feats to see if they were accurate.Most likely they just took a quick glance at the various stats, shrugged their shoulders, and said "Eh, close enough."
😆 😆 I agree.
Originally posted by Tony StarkFor some reason I don't think Rhino was running that fast. Why? Because he was steam rolling through a dense forest knocking trees over.And i'm going to bet that Colossus can't run down The Rhino who runs upwards of 50+mph which The THING did no problem.
Thing just ran through the path and caught him. Do you have any scans saying in the narration or anything on how fast he is moving? Like the bios or not Thing has level 2 speed. Colossus has level 3 speed.
Plus he has shown decent speed and agility for a powerhouse.
So the ball is in your hands. Show scans of Thing using decent speed for a big dude or good agility feats.
Originally posted by badabingYea I know. But read the panels. That was the third match. Colossus beat him once and Thing beat Colossus once.
This is your scan.
Now read that scan and lets see what you come up with.
I was being sarcastic when I posted that in the Thing respect thread. I said Thing won the match but I was surprized nobody saw how Thing actually won.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Yea I know. But read the panels. That was the third match. Colossus beat him once and Thing beat Colossus once.Now read that scan and lets see what you come up with.
