Originally posted by badabingActually Colossus kicked alot of @ss in Secret Wars. He beat Dr. Oct and the Wrecking Crew. Then he stopped the star-ship from falling out of the sky.
I was just busting your "nuggets". 😆
I really don't know about the whole speed issue. But IMO, Ben is a better combatant. I thought Ben also has a better overall showing in Secret Wars. Plus, they are evenly matched and I'll go a little fanboy on my opinion and choose Ben.
Then Colossus proved he has the toughest hide in Marvel by sustaining the least amount of damage from the blast from the uber-Doom.
Thing, Thor, Hulk, Ironman were all too far gone to be revived.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Actually Colossus kicked alot of @ss in Secret Wars. He beat Dr. Oct and the Wrecking Crew. Then he stopped the star-ship from falling out of the sky.Then Colossus proved he has the toughest hide in Marvel by sustaining the least amount of damage from the blast from the uber-Doom.
Thing, Thor, Hulk, Ironman were all too far gone to be revived.
Ben takes this one. Sure Colossus has a tougther outer shell, but Thing is stronger, is a better fighter and has a much better catch phrase.
Also, as Dan Slott put it, "sure Wolverine is unkillable and Batman can prepare and all, but Ben has somthing else. He won't give up."
It would be a awesome fight, but in the end Ben would prevail
Originally posted by Grimm22There is moe evidence to point out Colossus may have a slight edge in strength.
Ben takes this one. Sure Colossus has a tougther outer shell, but Thing is stronger, is a better fighter and has a much better catch phrase.Also, as Dan Slott put it, "sure Wolverine is unkillable and Batman can prepare and all, but Ben has somthing else. He won't give up."
It would be a awesome fight, but in the end Ben would prevail
Colossus is tougher, faster, and the fighting skills are just about even.
The X-men use Colossus as a training excersise in the Danger Room! That's big time skills right there. I can show you scans of Colossus training in combat all day long.
Tough fight though I say Colossus 6/10.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
There is moe evidence tp point out Colossus may have a slight edge in strength.Colossus is tougher, faster, and the fighting skills are just about even.
The X-men use Colossus as a training excersise in the Danger Room! That's big time skills right there. I can show you scans of Colossus training in combat all day long.
Tough fight though I say Colossus 6/10.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
There is moe evidence to point out Colossus may have a slight edge in strength.Colossus is tougher, faster, and the fighting skills are just about even.
The X-men use Colossus as a training excersise in the Danger Room! That's big time skills right there. I can show you scans of Colossus training in combat all day long.
Tough fight though I say Colossus 6/10.
Okay i'll give you the case in speed, but strength I still stick by Ben. Just check about any stats chart and it will say Ben's "maximum" is 85, even though he can go over it if he has to.
Colosusus's strength is around 70 tons.
No disrepect to Piotor, but Ben takes this one.
And this is before Ben absorbed more Cosmic Rays
Originally posted by Grimm2270 tons?
Okay i'll give you the case in speed, but strength I still stick by Ben. Just check about any stats chart and it will say Ben's "maximum" is 85, even though he can go over it if he has to.Colosusus's strength is around 70 tons.
No disrepect to Piotor, but Ben takes this one.
And this is before Ben absorbed more Cosmic Rays
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6191888
Colossus was less ravaged than other people in the secret wars but so was Reed Richards. It was just that Esaji was in love with Colossus so she revived him. Regardless its all irrelevant because Thing was in his BEN GRIMM human form at the time!!!
Thing's survived the explosion that destroyed Ego from point blank. Colossus is better at resisting heat and getting cut. Doesnt matter in this fight cuz their not fighting with Adamantium claws or fire...their fighting with fists. And Thing stands up to a pounding better than anyone...just like with Champion who KO'd Colossus almost immediately.
Please stop showing that abridge version of the Thing Juggernaut fight. Its hilarious how the haters only show half of the last page, cuz in the next panel he is not only conscious but he drags Juggernaut down and keeps him from reaching the Beyonder.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
70 tons?http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6191888
God does Marvel just love to make no sense or somthing?
Seriously, they keep changing the strength charts! WHY!!!
Originally posted by WynndarThing was not in human form during that blast.
Colossus was less ravaged than other people in the secret wars but so was Reed Richards. It was just that Esaji was in love with Colossus so she revived him. Regardless its all irrelevant because Thing was in his BEN GRIMM human form at the time!!!Thing's survived the explosion that destroyed Ego from point blank. Colossus is better at resisting heat and getting cut. Doesnt matter in this fight cuz their not fighting with Adamantium claws or fire...their fighting with fists. And Thing stands up to a pounding better than anyone...just like with Champion who KO'd Colossus almost immediately.
Please stop showing that abridge version of the Thing Juggernaut fight. Its hilarious how the haters only show half of the last page, cuz in the next panel he is not only conscious but he drags Juggernaut down and keeps him from reaching the Beyonder.
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/SecretWarsblast.jpg
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6282542
And when Colossus fought Champion he was very inexperienced at that time like he said at the beginning of the comic. That fight was taylor made for Thing.
Originally posted by Grimm22
Ben takes this one. Sure Colossus has a tougther outer shell, but Thing is stronger, is a better fighter and has a much better catch phrase.Also, as Dan Slott put it, "sure Wolverine is unkillable and Batman can prepare and all, but Ben has somthing else. He won't give up."
It would be a awesome fight, but in the end Ben would prevail
You're right about the catch phrase! But how do we exactly know which one is stronger?? Where can I look up stats like this and whatnot.... Any links or something????
Originally posted by superman41082I posted a link above saying Colossus can lift over 100 tons now. There is no official bio that says Thing is above class 85.(I realize he has lifted things over that).
You're right about the catch phrase! But how do we exactly know which one is stronger?? Where can I look up stats like this and whatnot.... Any links or something????
Originally posted by snoopdogg
I posted a link above saying Colossus can lift over 100 tons now. There is no official bio that says Thing is above class 85.(I realize he has lifted things over that).
In terms of strength nowadays I would say they are about even, because if Colossus can lift 100 tons (why now all of a sudden), then im guessing Ben can lift about the same.
Overall I think it would end up as a stalemate or it could be anyone's game hardly.
Still because im such a hopeless dope I have to put my money on my main man Ben.
Originally posted by Grimm22Well the 70 tons was when Colossus was a teenager and he is now fully grown and that's why he can lift over 100 tons. Thing has always been portrayed as a adult in comics which is why I think he is still class 85.
In terms of strength nowadays I would say they are about even, because if Colossus can lift 100 tons (why now all of a sudden), then im guessing Ben can lift about the same.Overall I think it would end up as a stalemate or it could be anyone's game hardly.
Still because im such a hopeless dope I have to put my money on my main man Ben.
