Freedon Nadd vs. Count Dooku and Mace Windu

Originally posted by tdtd
Unfortunately we know very little about him as a man, except for the fact that Naga Sadow taught him himself, which says more than Kun learning from Sadow's teachings.

I take issue with this bullshit. Naga Sadow certainly did not teach Nadd everything, and it can be argued that Kun learned more of Sadow's arts than Nadd did.

Why do I say this?

Because it is apparent in DLotS that he didn't. Observe:

Why would Nadd want to get right to work on reviving what he referred to as "lost arts" if he had already learned it? Because Sadow apparently kept a hell of a lot of knowledge hidden from him. However, after Kun killed the guardian wyrm, that knowledge was available to him (it was underneath the pit that the wyrm occupied).

That and the Massassi no longer wanted to kill him, so whatever was in the other temples was also freely available to Kun. In contrast, only whatever Sadow allowed Nadd to see was available to him.

Given this, it's very much proper to assume that Kun learned more than Nadd.

Didn't Kun release Sadow from suspended animation and learn from Sadow himself? And what you just still isn't evidence enough that Kun learned more than Nadd did. Even if they had the same access to the same knowledge, if i'm correct learning from the actual person is more effective than reading it in a sith scroll.

Originally posted by tdtd
Didn't Kun release Sadow from suspended animation and learn from Sadow himself? And what you just still isn't evidence enough that Kun learned more than Nadd did. Even if they had the same access to the same knowledge, if i'm correct learning from the actual person is more effective than reading it in a sith scroll.

Kun did not learn from Sadow just from his teachings.

And whether Nadd learned as much or more then Kun is open to debate and very hard to say. Sadow couldn't have had all he knew down there, but perhaps he did tell Nadd all he knew. Or perhaps not, this is an impossible guess really.

Yea that's what I was saying but I was asking, didn't Nadd learn from Sadow himself since he found Sadow in suspended animation and released him?

Originally posted by IKC
I take issue with this bullshit. Naga Sadow certainly did not teach Nadd everything, and it can be argued that Kun learned more of Sadow's arts than Nadd did.

Why do I say this?

Because it is apparent in DLotS that he didn't. Observe:

Why would Nadd want to get right to work on reviving what he referred to as "lost arts" if he had already learned it? Because Sadow apparently kept a hell of a lot of knowledge hidden from him. However, after Kun killed the guardian wyrm, that knowledge was available to him (it was underneath the pit that the wyrm occupied).

That and the Massassi no longer wanted to kill him, so whatever was in the other temples was also freely available to Kun. In contrast, only whatever Sadow allowed Nadd to see was available to him.

Given this, it's very much proper to assume that Kun learned more than Nadd.

No, he needed a body. He can't create a body unless some underling comes along and uses sith magic to reanimate him. He never states that he himself doesn't know it, it's simply that he himself can not do it from his spirit form. No Sith has done it, but it does not indicate that no sith can.

Now obviously Exar wasn't compliant, but that scan does not indicate he is superior in Naga Sadow's knowledge, particularly since just a few pages earlier in that same comic, he is surprised by some massassi who floors him.

Originally posted by zod360
Do you have any proof for that?

LMFAO.

We ask little Numan to provide proof of his bold statement that "the PT era was the best era evar!11" And instead of doing that, he turns around and begs others for proof. Good job.

Look, Lucas himself says he doesn't concern himself with EU. He even says that it's an alternate universe, so why would we apply his quote to EU if he markedly doesn't give a damn and doesn't understand it? Logical fallacy.

Illustrious, did Nadd learn from Sadow himself?

Yes

So I'm inclined to say that learning from the teacher himself is more effective than learning from the teacher's scrolls. Obviously we don't know who learned more of Sadow's knowledge but it is very illogical to speculate Kun learned more than Nadd did, when Nadd learned from the Sith himself.

Originally posted by Illustrious
Logical fallacy.

Originally posted by PurpleSaber
Haha, I really don't have a say on this thread, but how can something be a LOGICAL fallacy?

It's a fallacy in logic, hence logical fallacy.