Is Bush The Worst U.S. President Ever?

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Moderates are people who can't make up their mind--"I kinda agree with that, but....I also kinda agree with that." Pick and commit, dammit!

Pick and commit? Sorry buddy. Things aren't that black and white.

The left along with the Dems are a bunch of nuts. Straight up utopic anti-defense, pro-crime, anti-constitutional scatterbrains. And the religious right, these capitalists republicans / corporate swine are just losers, man.

Look at the current dope at the helm for example. And I should pick and commit? I don't think so. Both sides need to desperately reform before I'd even consider partisanship.

Both sides are whats wrong with this country.

dammit!

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
And the religious right, these capitalists republicans / corporate swine are just losers, man.

Look at the current dope at the helm for example. And I should pick and commit? I don't think so. Both sides need to desperately reform before I'd even consider partisanship.

Both sides are whats wrong with this country.

dammit!

As a blood-thirsty warmonger, I find that very offensive!

GO DUB'YA!!!

Originally posted by FistOfThe North

The left along with the Dems are a bunch of nuts. Straight up utopic anti-defense, pro-crime, anti-constitutional scatterbrains.

I'll give you that.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
GO DUB'YA!!!

you might think differently when it's you standing on a flooded out city roof top waving a sign, begging for food. This isn't a matter of democrat v. republican, it's a matter of right v. wrong. It's a matter of corrupt v. what's best for the people.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
you might think differently when it's you standing on a flooded out city roof top waving a sign, begging for food. This isn't a matter of democrat v. republican, it's a matter of right v. wrong. It's a matter of corrupt v. what's best for the people.

So basically your saying republicans and democrats need to STFU and we need better choices!

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
you might think differently when it's you standing on a flooded out city roof top waving a sign, begging for food. This isn't a matter of democrat v. republican, it's a matter of right v. wrong. It's a matter of corrupt v. what's best for the people.

Bull! Its always Rep vs Dem.

Go Dub'ya!

Originally posted by soleran30
So basically your saying republicans and democrats need to STFU and we need better choices!

They need to do one of three things. More clearly define themselves, STFU or step aside. So, I guess I'm agreeing with your assesment of my perspective.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Bull! Its always Rep vs Dem.

Go Dub'ya!

Yes, it's always "Dem" v. Rep" in a limited party system. Two parties are easier to control than are three or four or five. See the above response for more insight. I might also add, that you deny a huge hurrdle you face as a black man, simply by living in this country, by indulging such a limited perspective.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
I might also add, that you deny a huge hurrdle you face as a black man, simply by living in this country, by indulging such a limited perspective.

I'm half Hawaiian, I look more Hawaiian, and I live in Hawai'i which doesn't have the same problems of the Mainland.

(I'm only in Nebraska for college)

see...

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
I'm half Hawaiian, I look more Hawaiian, and I live in Hawai'i which doesn't have the same problems of the Mainland.

(I'm only in Nebraska for college)

see...

Well, I wish I could say a picture was the end of your issues. However, you look black to me. And if you look black to a guy that doesn't give a shit, then trust me...you look black to the people that do give a shit.

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Well, I wish I could say a picture was the end of your issues. However, you look black to me. And if you look black to a guy that doesn't give a shit, then trust me...you look black to the people that do give a shit.

That's true.

But I don't see how race should affect political views and affiliations.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
That's true.

But I don't see how race should affect political views and affiliations.

Nor do I. But what I am saying is that, often times, political views and affiliations effect race. Should and do are two different things. I'm not saying that a black man can't be conservative. GW has one of the most racially diverse cabinets EVER! But that diversity of race doesn't equate with diversity of intent or opinion. Which, by the way, he promised it would. He has simply populated his cabinet with like-minded, self-serving, opprotunists. Greed knows no boundry of race.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
That's true.

But I don't see how race should affect political views and affiliations.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Bull! Its always Rep vs Dem.

Go Dub'ya!

Also not true, has been mostly Republican vs. Democrat in the US for quite some time now, but you had different big parties. The US system doesn't really work well for more than 3 Parties but that doesn't mean that it is set two two ideologies. Also, in other parts of the world, there are more parties, with more ideologies.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well isn't that quite obvious? Imagine the best party you can think about (morally, economically, etc.), just with one little fault, they think half hawaiian, half black people, are not humans and need to be done away with. I think you wouldn't necessarily vote for it, now would you?

Also not true, has been mostly Republican vs. Democrat in the US for quite some time now, but you had different big parties. The US system doesn't really work well for more than 3 Parties but that doesn't mean that it is set two two ideologies. Also, in other parts of the world, there are more parties, with more ideologies.

If such a party existed, then ya you'd be right. I opt to be a Republican b'cuz those are the values, beliefs, views, and goals I agree with and that appeal to me.

I think a 2 party, black and white system is better. Yin and Yang are 2 opposite halves that when put together make up a perfect circle AND perfect cycle.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
If such a party existed, then ya you'd be right. I opt to be a Republican b'cuz those are the values, beliefs, views, and goals I agree with and that appeal to me.

I think a 2 party, black and white system is better. Yin and Yang are 2 opposite halves that when put together make up a perfect circle AND perfect cycle.

Yes, just that Republicans and Democrats are not Yin and Yang. They are actually quite stupid parties to begin with. A real liberal party is certainly missing...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, just that Republicans and Democrats are not Yin and Yang. They are actually quite stupid parties to begin with. A real liberal party is certainly missing...

No they're not--like you would know.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
No they're not--like you would know.

What is that supposed to mean?

Originally posted by Bardock42
What is that supposed to mean?

Exactly that.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
Exactly that.

Well, I don't think I like what you are implying. I hardly see a reason how you should be anymore enabled to judge that than me.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, I don't think I like what you are implying. I hardly see a reason how you should be anymore enabled to judge that than me.

Okay, my bad...

Define "stupid parties", since "stupid" is an adjective favored by six year olds and others who can't think of a more elaborate negative adjective.

What do you mean, there's no liberal party? The Demo's ARE liberals--guitar playin' hippies, flaming gay people, welfare check jockeys, and rich people willing to please them just to obtain a vote and a seat in office is about as left as it gets.

There's also no conservative party. And if you dispute the fact that neither party are at all behaving in a manner reflective of why they were founded, you aren't very familiar with either's core principles.