Jedi mistakes?

Started by chinabing4 pages

Not killing Anakin as he lay mortally wounded in the lava pit was not a mistake.

it was a mistake...obi-wan couldn't kill him...his emotions made him a coward...its understandable...but at the same time it's cruel and a big mistake

Originally posted by Red Superfly
Mistakes?

1. Hypocrits. Admonishing arrogance....arrogantly.......etc etc.

2. Having dance lessons in "how to dance with glow sticks", as opposed to having lessons in "stabbing people quickly with your saber in the face".

3. Deserving to die painfully.

4. Recruiting lame alien Jedi that suck. Three human Jedi outnumber the only useful alien in the order. Three noses? A big head? Breathe underwater? Big deal. The humans could kick your ass anyday, losers.

5. Recruiting the one human that actually would just stab them all in the head repeatedly rather than go fetching the milk.

6. Treating said psycho with utter contempt. Keep pushing those buttons.......

7. Not using guns. Morons.

😆

LMAO. This is all true.

Originally posted by Cascador
it was a mistake...obi-wan couldn't kill him...his emotions made him a coward...its understandable...but at the same time it's cruel and a big mistake

No, it wasn't a mistake. It's not the Jedi way to kill an unarmed, (literally) prisoner. Anakin killed Dooku that way and regretted it; while Obi-Wan didn't kill Anakin. Anakin wasn't too dangerous to be kept alive, Obi-wan just left it to The Force to decide his fate.

Leaving him as is was the right choice. If Obi-wan went down to help him, say try to drag him up the hillside to Padme's starship, Anakin might have grabbed his arm and thrown Obi-Wan into the lava. Say somehow he did grab Anakin and bring him into the shuttle and brought him to the pollismasa place to heal, Anakin might have gone and tried to kill them all again, after padme dies. Or maybe padme woulda lived if she saw Anakin again, I dunno, this is going out on a limb here already.

Besides, hindsight tells us it is Vader who kills the emperor

Obi-Wan didn't kill Anakin because:

1. He couldn't destroy his former padawan and friend.

2. It's not the Jedi way.

3. If you're missing three out of your four limbs and are burning, I don't think you're a big enough threat to kill.

4. Palpatine and a bunch of Clones were arriving. If he'd stuck around to kill Anakin, he would have been pwned by the Emperor and his guards/soldiers.

Originally posted by chinabing
No, it wasn't a mistake. It's not the Jedi way to kill an unarmed, (literally) prisoner. Anakin killed Dooku that way and regretted it; while Obi-Wan didn't kill Anakin. Anakin wasn't too dangerous to be kept alive, Obi-wan just left it to The Force to decide his fate.

Leaving him as is was the right choice. If Obi-wan went down to help him, say try to drag him up the hillside to Padme's starship, Anakin might have grabbed his arm and thrown Obi-Wan into the lava. Say somehow he did grab Anakin and bring him into the shuttle and brought him to the pollismasa place to heal, Anakin might have gone and tried to kill them all again, after padme dies. Or maybe padme woulda lived if she saw Anakin again, I dunno, this is going out on a limb here already.

Besides, hindsight tells us it is Vader who kills the emperor

In case of dangerous times the Jedi Code doesn't really matter....it's war. Anakin was very loyal to it because he wanted to be the greatest Jedi. But look at Mace Windu. Mace Windu didn't stick to it, he wanted to kill Sidious. And maybe Anakin used the code as an excuse to keep him alive. But Mace was right, he was too dangerous to be kept alive. And if you think of it. Nobody would have expected that Luke's son would have rescued Vader from the Dark Side...they could only hope. He lied there mortally wounded, so I dont think he could have done much to anybody. Obi-Wan just had to swing his lightsaber one more time and it would be over. It could have saved them from the Sith even and it would release Vader out of his misery and pain. But I agree that he couldn't kill him because he still saw him as a friend. Still that doesn't make it up. Obi-Wan and Yoda might have more chance together to kill Palps together.

Originally posted by Tarvos
Obi-Wan didn't kill Anakin because:
1. He couldn't destroy his former padawan and friend.

true.
Originally posted by Tarvos

2. It's not the Jedi way.

And leaving somebody mortally wounded to suffer is? Look at Mace Windu. Did he keep to the code...was it wrong of Mace Windu? Look what Sidious did after he was killed.
Originally posted by Tarvos

3. If you're missing three out of your four limbs and are burning, I don't think you're a big enough threat to kill.

true...you aren't a big treat that anymore, but still leaving him there to die was cruel.
Originally posted by Tarvos

4. Palpatine and a bunch of Clones were arriving. If he'd stuck around to kill Anakin, he would have been pwned by the Emperor and his guards/soldiers.

One swing would be enough...that's all what it took...one throw or force-push even if he thought Anakin could still kill him. It would still give him enough time to escape. We don't know when he arrived. I think not long after but still Obi-Wan must have got some time otherwise Padmé's ship would have been noticed.

The jedi code does matter in every situation.

Jedi is a jedi because of his way of doing things. That is the only thing that makes jedi a jedi. Rules are made to keep the members of the order in line even when nobody has a vision to see the truth. Thats why the faith in the code is so important.

The episodes 1,2,3 tell a story of Anakin skywalker and the fall of the jedi order. They had to do something wrong to **** up the perfectly good thing they had going.

Jedi should try to end a fight as mercifully and quickly as possible. Murdering someone is definately forbidden.

Like 2 boxers fighting, when one goes down, the other one stops the beating. People die occasionaly and get seriously injured. But it is all done by the rules. Boxer who keeps beating a downed foe is a special case called a thug. Anakin started the fight and Obi1 did all he could to end it peacefully.

They didn't go and get Maul up from that pit he falled in, did they? Who knows how long did the poor thing suffer down there! =O

Well then the Jedi code has mistakes, doesn't it to let a man suffer in dead and just leave him...that's called like Anakin said "compassion" which is central to a Jedi's life? Then the code speaks against itself...

It's a fight to save the galaxy not a boxing match...bad comparisson.

Btw...Maul fell into a melting pit. So he melt to death...

One swing of a lightsaber . . . one pull on the trigger. . . Murder doesn't take much effort. No, Obi-Wan did right be leaving Anakin on the lava riverbank. I think obi was justified in slaying Darth Maul as he was not defenseless. Did Sidious show compassion in slaying 4 Jedi? No. Did Maul show compassion by slaying Qui-Gon?

Originally posted by chinabing
Did Sidious show compassion in slaying 4 Jedi? No. Did Maul show compassion by slaying Qui-Gon?

D'uh...they are Sith😉

So is Anakin and he killed Dooku who was pretty defenseless.

Who is Obi1 to decide when its time for the chosen one to die?
If Obi1 had killed Anakin, there would have been nothing to stop the Emperor from ruling the galaxy. No "dark father" to feel pity. No crashing droids to Alderaan.

As we can see, the jedi always take the longer road, which is quite a bit more enjoyable to us viewers than ending the whole story in episode 3.

One swing... No Droids crashing, No meeting Ben, No going to Alderaan, No joining up with the rebels, No death star destruction... No nothing.

well Anakin wasn't a Sith yet when he killed Dooku although heavily on the Dark path...

And yes of course...it was probably the will of the Force that Anakin still had to stay alive and not be killed by Obi-Wan.

But still...It was a lucky guess...it was still wrong, they were just lucky in the end Luke could save his father from the Dark Side.

A lucky guess? It was the will of the force!

"Nothing happens by accident." - Qui-gon

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Originally posted by chinabing
A lucky guess? It was the will of the force!

"Nothing happens by accident." - Qui-gon

So Yoda and Obi-Wan KNEW he'd win? Cause if not, then it was just a guess.

"Toss 'em in, if he gets chewed up... meh... we did all we could do."

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Originally posted by Tarvos
Obi-Wan didn't kill Anakin because:

1. He couldn't destroy his former padawan and friend.

2. It's not the Jedi way.

3. If you're missing three out of your four limbs and are burning, I don't think you're a big enough threat to kill.

4. Palpatine and a bunch of Clones were arriving. If he'd stuck around to kill Anakin, he would have been pwned by the Emperor and his guards/soldiers.

1. The boy you trained gone he is consumed by Darth Vader- Yoda

2. Destroy the Sith we must- Yoda

3. Was Mace going to let Palpatine live? Yoda would have finished off Anakin.

4. They arrived hours after the battle ended if I recall correctly.

Originally posted by Cascador
it was a mistake...obi-wan couldn't kill him...his emotions made him a coward...its understandable...but at the same time it's cruel and a big mistake

If he had no feelings, then he's not a human... 😑