I Need Help . . . And A Lot of It

Originally posted by Punker69
No.

But Job wasn't under normal circumstances like I previously stated so I dont see what your trying to prove.

Job was also not aware that he "wasn't under normal circumnstances" so your point is irrelevant.

By your own admission, if I were to kill your parents and replace them with four new parents, you would not regard this as fair.

This being the case, how is it fair for God to kill Job's children simply because He replaced them with other children?

Boy, that hits the point home........

too bad that doesn't help psychoboy07 at all...

Originally posted by Alliance
too bad that doesn't help psychoboy07 at all...

Every single thread in the Religion forum will turn into a whiny slap-fight between the Christians and atheists. Don't try to fight it.

oh I wasn't i just though that since this guy actually had a traumatic experience, people would be mature and sensitve and offer more advice than "god wanted it to happen" or "bad things happen" and then reducing it to some argument.

I thought people would be mature enough to keep it in the other threads and be helpful where it counts.

Originally posted by Alliance
oh I wasn't i just though that since this guy actually had a traumatic experience, people would be mature and sensitve and offer more advice than "god wanted it to happen" or "bad things happen" and then reducing it to some argument.

I thought people would be mature enough to keep it in the other threads and be helpful where it counts.

He is beyond help:

Originally posted by Gregory
Someone comes onto a movie forum and, after twenty-two posts, tells us that his dad accidently killed his brother, and asks for spiritual/psychological help. On a movie forum. Where he hasn't made any friends, and doesn't know anyone.

...I'm not quite sure what to make of this.

And apropos of nothing, but his first post was about a "sexy" tentacle scene in Pirates of the Carribian, and his post in the Introduction forum summarizes his fetishes (he gets of from looking at pictures of people being eaten--which makes his post in the horror forum asking for a picture of a woman being eaten by a painting suddenly seem a lot more creepy then it would have otherwise).

Sithsaber might say I'm being part of the problem, but I'm extremely suspicious of this person's sincerity.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Job was also not aware that he "wasn't under normal circumnstances" so your point is irrelevant.

By your own admission, if I were to kill your parents and replace them with four new parents, you would not regard this as fair.

This being the case, how is it fair for God to kill Job's children simply because He replaced them with other children?

I never said it was fair. I said it God restored him in the end. And blessed him. That should be enough for any man. If having Gods blessing upon your life and having him restore you double isn't enough, I dont know what is.

Originally posted by psychoboy07
Three years ago, my kid brother was accidentally killed by my father. He was backing up the truck to talk to my mother, and he ran right into the way. I was there when it happened, and I just can't stop blaming myself for what happened or get it out of my mind. If anyone could please offer advice that would be greatly appreciated.

My sincere condolences go out to you. I cannot begin to imagine how you must feel about what happened to your brother. As many other posters have stated, it is not your fault. It may be best for you to address this with people who are closer to you. Perhaps family members or close friends can help you through this ordeal. It is definately not something to deal with alone, but at the same time it is best to have the support of people you have personal contact with daily, rather than friends and acquaintances you have gained online and may not have met in person.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
He is beyond help:

Perhaps, but perhaps these occourances are linked together. You make a valid point, but I'd rather risk being duped by and 4$$ than to actually harm someone who clearly need help.

Originally posted by Punker69
I never said it was fair. I said it God restored him in the end. And blessed him. That should be enough for any man. If having Gods blessing upon your life and having him restore you double isn't enough, I dont know what is.

If I killed your parents, and replaced them with four new parents, would you regard this as having been restored doubly?

I would think, that god would of restored the originial children being god and all........Brought them back to life, in the story of Job. How can you wipe out the memory of all your children and also their pain and suffering while they are in the midst of dying.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If I killed your parents, and replaced them with four new parents, would you regard this as having been restored doubly?

Thats not the only thing. God blessed him. I think God took a little extra effort to restore Job. Since he took everything away. I dont think God did some half-minded job when he was going to restore him. And thats enough for me.

Originally posted by Punker69
Thats not the only thing. God blessed him. I think God took a little extra effort to restore Job. Since he took everything away. I dont think God did some half-minded job when he was going to restore him. And thats enough for me.

Maybe I'm just reasonable and smart, but I would think that God's blessing would be... not losing anything in the first place. No suffering is better than some suffering.

In all honesty you are already starting to recover, if you choose religion than you will find comfort in it, you will find equal comfort in therapy as well. All I can say is that if you choose religion then you have realized the most important thing of all, you want to be helped, not saved.

Originally posted by Janus Marius
Maybe I'm just reasonable and smart, but I would think that God's blessing would be... not losing anything in the first place. No suffering is better than some suffering.

Your not God. The Bible says his thoughts are not like our thoughts and his ways are not like our ways.

Originally posted by Punker69
Your not God. The Bible says his thoughts are not like our thoughts and his ways are not like our ways.

Then why do you call God a he? That sounds like God is just one of us.

So is God like us or not?

No.

my sincereness goes out to you. the way i see it, God needed your brother for other things not of this earth.

Thats not the only thing. God blessed him. I think God took a little extra effort to restore Job. Since he took everything away. I dont think God did some half-minded job when he was going to restore him. And thats enough for me.

Why doesn't he do the same for everyone who beleives?

God gives and he takes away

Doesn't this violate the idea of free will ?

Is he really in charge of everything then?

Which is it ? Destiny or Free Will ?