Originally posted by Wolverine2006and i think are prayers have been answered, first it was blackwolverine, than blackweaponx,then wolverine8888, not we got wolverine 2006!
Wolverine isnt a pushover, Bullseye will throw something at him pierce his skin and Wolverine will go berserk charge at him and turn him into sushi.
Wolverine would take a huge majority. And there are quite a few reasons for that, I dare say.
Firstly, if Bullseye blinds him he just goes to him using his senses of smell and hearing while recovering from his eye injury. Healing factor indeed rocks.
Secondly, Bullseye can throw all the sharp items he can find to Wolverine very neck, but still Wolvie won't care. Several times has he runned straigth against a bunch of angry men shooting with assault rifles, but still he kept going. You think a few throwing stars could stop him?
Thirdly, Bullseye wouldn't be able run away forever. Wolverine is fasted, blind or not. And all Wolverine needs is one decent hit. One slice and Bullseye lacks a head.
I can go on if you want, but I guess you get the point. Wolverine simply won't be stopped by a guy who throws him with sharp things.
Assuming that Bullseye has a fair assortment of sharp projectiles to use and the combatants start a good distance away from each other, then I think Bullseye could win a majority, say 6/10. While most of his vital organs are protected (although I suppose that Bullseye might be able to get projectiles in between Wolverine's ribs to his heart and lungs) he is still relatively vulnerable. By this I namely mean his eyes, throat, ligaments, and tendons. All of these areas are exposed and attacks to them would certainly incapacitate Wolverine for a given amount of time or at the very least diminish his combat effectiveness. But keeping Wolverine at a distance is paramount as up close Bullseye would be in big trouble.
Now a forested battle field with plenty of cover I could see Wolverine taking the majority. But in a open field arena fight, he is at a major disadvantage.
How could Bullseye keep Wolverine away? If I recall correctly he once lost a lung and kept on fighting (correct me if I'm wrong, please.). Wolvie's threshold of pain is too high for Bullseye to incapacitate him with projectiles. Already the amount of machine gun put against Big W during these years shows that he practically doesn't give a damn of hits.
His internal organs have suffered before, he has taken hits from the Hulk, he's been under a shower of machine gun fire and so forth. A couple of well-aimed sticks won't put him down.
Originally posted by Tshern
How could Bullseye keep Wolverine away? If I recall correctly he once lost a lung and kept on fighting (correct me if I'm wrong, please.). Wolvie's threshold of pain is too high for Bullseye to incapacitate him with projectiles. Already the amount of machine gun put against Big W during these years shows that he practically doesn't give a damn of hits.
While I agree that Wolverine is a tough old bastard, you lost me when you said that his pain threshold would prevent him from losing to Bullseye. What I think Wolverine is vulnerable is not to poorly aimed machine gun fire from some common bad-guy thug, but precise, accurate, pinpoint attacks from one of the best assassins in the world. For example if you cut someone's Achilles tendon in the back of their calf they can no longer physically walk. The human body can be almost entirely incapacitated by such attacks to certain areas. Now Wolverine would heal but in the meantime he would be vulnerable to even more such attacks.
Originally posted by Tshern
His internal organs have suffered before, he has taken hits from the Hulk, he's been under a shower of machine gun fire and so forth. A couple of well-aimed sticks won't put him down.
All I can say about Wolverine taking hits from the Hulk is that the writers slept through their high school physics classes. If you want to take that as something other than PIS then be my guest.
What I think Wolverine is vulnerable is not to poorly aimed machine gun fire from some common bad-guy thug
For example if you cut someone's Achilles tendon in the back of their calf they can no longer physically walk.
And three seconds later it's fixed. And what did Bullseye achieve with this throw? Nothing.
The human body can be almost entirely incapacitated by such attacks to certain areas.
A human body, but a comic book mutant body is a different issue, don't you think? Real world logic is partially invalid in MU. Wolverine has showed that he is able to walk against machine gun fire which tears his vital organs to bloody pulp. Hence, he can do it.
It's like the Hulk. We all know that in real world it is impossible for a man to lift a mountain or throw a castle, but still the Hulk has done it. Hence, he can do it. Juggernaut has walked in the air after he was picked up by Jean Grey. Not realistic by our standards, but realistic in comic world standards.
All I can say about Wolverine taking hits from the Hulk is that the writers slept through their high school physics classes. If you want to take that as something other than PIS then be my guest.
Yeah, I explained this before, but I still would like to mention that real world physics does not apply to the wonderful world of comics. The speed of light cannot be exceeded, a castle cannot be thrown by a single man nor can a man jump to concentrated antimatter (Which might not even exist in our universe. An interesting topic really.).
Now I admit it, my arguments are definitely not based on real world and the invariances we are so used to consider while living on our very own Earth. When talking about comics we have to go by the rules that exist in their universe, not by the common sense that we so willingly use in our own lives.
In comic book standards Wolverine would take a significant majority due to the fact that tearing apart his vital organs wouldn't stop him and Bullseye can't inflict physical damage that wouldn't be almost instantly healed by Wolverine's healing factor.
Edit: Hopefully that didn't sound like a personal insult, it was not supposed to be one.
Originally posted by TshernIf wolverine suffers a wound that causes massive bleeding like bullseye hitting hiting his 2 caraded artories, then he can simply dodge wolverine until he passes out which will be in about 2-3 seconds.
How about machine gun fire from a squadron of well-trained soldiers, like the ones who Mister X sent to kill Wolverine. I'm pretty sure that if a group of soldiers fire hundreds of bullets to Wolvie some of them would hit his important organs and so forth. Especially since he's been shot at countless times.And three seconds later it's fixed. And what did Bullseye achieve with this throw? Nothing.
A human body, but a comic book mutant body is a different issue, don't you think? Real world logic is partially invalid in MU. Wolverine has showed that he is able to walk against machine gun fire which tears his vital organs to bloody pulp. Hence, he can do it.
It's like the Hulk. We all know that in real world it is impossible for a man to lift a mountain or throw a castle, but still the Hulk has done it. Hence, he can do it. Juggernaut has walked in the air after he was picked up by Jean Grey. Not realistic by our standards, but realistic in comic world standards.
Yeah, I explained this before, but I still would like to mention that real world physics does not apply to the wonderful world of comics. The speed of light cannot be exceeded, a castle cannot be thrown by a single man nor can a man jump to concentrated antimatter (Which might not even exist in our universe. An interesting topic really.).
Now I admit it, my arguments are definitely not based on real world and the invariances we are so used to consider while living on our very own Earth. When talking about comics we have to go by the rules that exist in their universe, not by the common sense that we so willingly use in our own lives.
In comic book standards Wolverine would take a significant majority due to the fact that tearing apart his vital organs wouldn't stop him and Bullseye can't inflict physical damage that wouldn't be almost instantly healed by Wolverine's healing factor.
Edit: Hopefully that didn't sound like a personal insult, it was not supposed to be one.
If wolverine suffers a wound that causes massive bleeding like bullseye hitting hiting his 2 caraded artories, then he can simply dodge wolverine until he passes out which will be in about 2-3 seconds.
Originally posted by Tshernbut if hes blind, he wont know that they are coming
Easy to avoid by simply covering them. Wolvie could use his hand for example, there's no way Bullseye throws something true adamantium.
Originally posted by Tsherni read wolverine monthly, and if you do to you know that if he loses a substantial amount of blood, he passes out, he doesnt die, but he does pass out.
And as usual, Wolverine's healing factor doesn't heal his wounds. That is exactly why he has died of loss of blood hundreds of times. Practically everytime he has been in explosions, under machine gun fire and dropped from a skyscraper.
Originally posted by marvelprince
I'm just curious as to why Wolverine's senses won't help him
His sense of hearing won't be of much use, with the sheer speed and accuracy with which Bullseye will be throwing the projectiles. He'll be able to sniff him out, but c'mon, Bullseye will easily evade him.
Secondly, Bullseye can throw all the sharp items he can find to Wolverine very neck, but still Wolvie won't care.
I'm sorry, but Wolverine needs to Breathe. If his neck is partially severed from it's base, with a ninja star lodged deep in his esophagus, he won't be able to breath..and eventually he will die.
Bullseye wouldn't be able run away forever. Wolverine is faster
Bullseye has the speed of a professional Olympic athlete actually. If anything they have the same speed.
Wolvie's threshold of pain is too high for Bullseye to incapacitate him with projectiles
When his head has been displaced from it's body, and he can no longer breath, that doesn't matter much.
i read wolverine monthly, and if you do to you know that if he loses a substantial amount of blood, he passes out, he doesnt die, but he does pass out.
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