Originally posted by Tshern
How about machine gun fire from a squadron of well-trained soldiers, like the ones who Mister X sent to kill Wolverine. I'm pretty sure that if a group of soldiers fire hundreds of bullets to Wolvie some of them would hit his important organs and so forth. Especially since he's been shot at countless times.
It is a sad fact that 99% of all bad guys, no matter what their previous training, are incredibly poor shots.
Originally posted by Tshern
And three seconds later it's fixed. And what did Bullseye achieve with this throw? Nothing.
Personally I think it would take him far longer than 3 seconds to heal from such an injury as losing an eye (which took him years after Cyber ripped one of them out) or to regrow tendons or ligaments (as in AOA he couldn't even regrow an arm). His healing factor is good but it doesn't make him invulnerable. And even if it only puts him down for a few moments, it would be enough time for Bullseye to inflict even more damage.
Originally posted by Tshern
A human body, but a comic book mutant body is a different issue, don't you think? Real world logic is partially invalid in MU. Wolverine has showed that he is able to walk against machine gun fire which tears his vital organs to bloody pulp. Hence, he can do it.It's like the Hulk. We all know that in real world it is impossible for a man to lift a mountain or throw a castle, but still the Hulk has done it. Hence, he can do it. Juggernaut has walked in the air after he was picked up by Jean Grey. Not realistic by our standards, but realistic in comic world standards.
I have no problem with Superman flying, the Hulk lifting a mountain, Thor being a real person, or Wolverine having his bones bonded to an unbreakable metal in comics. What I take issue with is when Marvel or DC gives a character a certain power set and them has them accomplish a feat that is well outside of said power set. No matter how many times they do that, to me it is always PIS. All I ask is for either consistency with what they have already stated or at least a "reasonable" explanation.
Originally posted by Tshern
Yeah, I explained this before, but I still would like to mention that real world physics does not apply to the wonderful world of comics. The speed of light cannot be exceeded, a castle cannot be thrown by a single man nor can a man jump to concentrated antimatter (Which might not even exist in our universe. An interesting topic really.).Now I admit it, my arguments are definitely not based on real world and the invariances we are so used to consider while living on our very own Earth. When talking about comics we have to go by the rules that exist in their universe, not by the common sense that we so willingly use in our own lives.
In comic book standards Wolverine would take a significant majority due to the fact that tearing apart his vital organs wouldn't stop him and Bullseye can't inflict physical damage that wouldn't be almost instantly healed by Wolverine's healing factor.
Edit: Hopefully that didn't sound like a personal insult, it was not supposed to be one.
Imo, as Wolverine still has a basically human body attacks that would render him incapable of moving and that caused enough blood loss would be enough to beat him. Also remember that Sabertooth has almost killed Wolverine on a couple of occasions inflicting the type of damage that I think Bullseys is capable of.
Oh, and I have no problem with someone disagreeing with my like you just did. You simply stated where you disagreed and gave a logical and perfectly civil explanation as to your reasoning. We may end up having to just agree to disagree but debating like this is half the fun. 😄
Originally posted by capt it up
or simply do this. see there not much bull eye can do that would realy do much damage to wolverine
lol
yet again marvel seems to ignore the laws of physics....
pity
ya, wolvie can take bullets without flinching, however those dont appear to hit him in any real vital areas. Ive never heard it stated anywhere that he is bullet or cut proof, so a perfectly aimed bladed object of some kind could seriously dehabilitate wolvie.
Bullseye would have to make a series of increadable shots to keep wolvie at bay, but as long as the environment will allow him to keep that kind of distance i figure he can
Originally posted by inamilist
lolyet again marvel seems to ignore the laws of physics....
pity
ya, wolvie can take bullets without flinching, however those dont appear to hit him in any real vital areas. Ive never heard it stated anywhere that he is bullet or cut proof, so a perfectly aimed bladed object of some kind could seriously dehabilitate wolvie.
Bullseye would have to make a series of increadable shots to keep wolvie at bay, but as long as the environment will allow him to keep that kind of distance i figure he can
AGILITY and REFLEX FEATS not all but some
(Wolverine in Black Shadow! White Shadow! Chapter one the killing ground) Has wolverine cutting a guys gun to piece with out him even seeing it. Also in the same issue wolverine dodges a bunch of machinegun firer.
(Wolverine #40) wolverine well carrying a girl , dodges beams of deadly light.
(Wolverine vs Spiderman nuff said? #48) wolverine has a little fist fight with spiderman and seems to have had the upper hand in the battle.
(wolverine #137) wolverine dodges a bunch of lazers.
here a picture below showing wolverine would not even need to dodge.
Originally posted by capt it up
oh u wanna see more shots in wolverine ok.
also wolverine could easiliy just dodge what ever bull eye throws at him.AGILITY and REFLEX FEATS not all but some
(Wolverine in Black Shadow! White Shadow! Chapter one the killing ground) Has wolverine cutting a guys gun to piece with out him even seeing it. Also in the same issue wolverine dodges a bunch of machinegun firer.
(Wolverine #40) wolverine well carrying a girl , dodges beams of deadly light.
(Wolverine vs Spiderman nuff said? #48) wolverine has a little fist fight with spiderman and seems to have had the upper hand in the battle.
(wolverine #137) wolverine dodges a bunch of lazers.here a picture below showing wolverine would not even need to dodge.
✅ Nicely done! 😉
Originally posted by capt it up
oh u wanna see more shots in wolverine ok.
also wolverine could easiliy just dodge what ever bull eye throws at him.AGILITY and REFLEX FEATS not all but some
(Wolverine in Black Shadow! White Shadow! Chapter one the killing ground) Has wolverine cutting a guys gun to piece with out him even seeing it. Also in the same issue wolverine dodges a bunch of machinegun firer.
(Wolverine #40) wolverine well carrying a girl , dodges beams of deadly light.
(Wolverine vs Spiderman nuff said? #48) wolverine has a little fist fight with spiderman and seems to have had the upper hand in the battle.
(wolverine #137) wolverine dodges a bunch of lazers.here a picture below showing wolverine would not even need to dodge.
marvel needs to freshen up on their knowledge of ballistics and inertia 🙂
lol, dodging lazers and dodging someone who basically has the superpower of deadeye accuracy are 2 differant things
I dont like calling PIS on unrealistic things in comics, because, well, they are comics, but if someone is shot from that close, they will fall down.
Simple inertia
Originally posted by inamilist
marvel needs to freshen up on their knowledge of ballistics and inertia 🙂lol, dodging lazers and dodging someone who basically has the superpower of deadeye accuracy are 2 differant things
I dont like calling PIS on unrealistic things in comics, because, well, they are comics, but if someone is shot from that close, they will fall down.
Simple inertia
Originally posted by capt it up
dude ur talken about a guy who takes hit form class 100 and keeps comming. wolverien a mutant with amazing healing and has a pain threshold like no other. also dodging a lazer is far ahrder then dodging some one who is amazing accurate. lazer move far far far far faster then bull eye could ever hope to throw any thing.
Unless his mutant power is the ability to negate the laws of physics then that is PIS. ✅
And it depends on how accurate the targeting systems controlling the lasers to determine just how hard it is to dodge them.
Originally posted by TheKahn
Unless his mutant power is the ability to negate the laws of physics then that is PIS. ✅And it depends on how accurate the targeting systems controlling the lasers to determine just how hard it is to dodge them.
also a lazer is always faster then any bullet.
Originally posted by capt it up
dude ur talken about a guy who takes hit form class 100 and keeps comming.
I'd recommend you look up inertia and the force generated by bullets
im not saying he is dead, but there is NOWAY he stands on a motorbike with dozens of 9mm bullets being shot into him (especially because there dont seem to be any exit wounds.... OUCH)
Originally posted by inamilist
I'd recommend you look up inertia and the force generated by bulletsim not saying he is dead, but there is NOWAY he stands on a motorbike with dozens of 9mm bullets being shot into him (especially because there dont seem to be any exit wounds.... OUCH)
Originally posted by capt it up
lol. dude comic are all pis. only way to judge comics is to use comic evidence real world does not matter when ur talken about people who can fly lift mountain ect.also a lazer is always faster then any bullet.
see, thats why these are difficult, because the powers that the comic say wolverine should have and those that he shows are entirely differant
for him to perform the feat on the bike, he would need to have MASSIVE super strength, superhuman balance and durability
he has none of those, he has a healing factor and pain tolorance
thats why it is being brought up, it is also, coincidently, why a lot of people dont like wolverine. They dont even try to write him properly....