Loeb & Liefeld on Onslaught Reborn

Started by TheKahn4 pages

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Forget the artistic nit-picking you picky bastards. 😛

Maybe they'll do Onslaught better this time.....he's got uber potential as a villian after all.

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I hope the writting is really good because it's going to look like shit 🙁

Originally posted by DraconaInVolata

Fear his man boobs of death! 😛

Goddamn. There have been artists over the years who weren't as slick...but this is the worst looking Cap I've ever seen. 😘

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
"Below are common criticisms of Liefeld's artwork. Some of the features cited are idiosyncratic, while others were fairly widespread trends in mainstream comics of the 1990s. Although all these criticisms have been made of Liefeld's art, he was still a huge draw as an artist in the early 1990s, and retains some degree of popularity today.

* Limited facial expressions, generally ranging from barely-restrained anger to a look that is regularly described as "constipated" by less charitable commentators
* Distorted proportions such as tiny heads, wrists, and ankles and oversized breasts and muscles, as well as the occasional swipe with female face and breasts layered onto an obviously male figure
* Impossibly exaggerated female figures, characterized by large breasts, spines curved to 180°, and waists smaller than their biceps
* Conspicuous panel-to-panel inconsistencies in costumes, backgrounds, and even the number of digits on characters' hands
* Use of objects, other figures, or the frame edge to conceal characters' hands and feet
* Poses that appear to be both illogical (in the context of the plot) and anatomically impossible, or at least uncomfortable
* Skewed perspective: often a picture will be begun in one perspective then be finished in another.
* Disproportionate facial features. Eyes are frequently asymmetrical, often drawn on a skewed axis on the face; noses are often misplaced; and grimacing characters regularly display impossible numbers of uniformly-shaped teeth.

While Liefeld's artwork, particularly in his earlier efforts, manifested a striking design sense, his shortcomings were initially covered up by strong, experienced inkers. As Liefeld was able to exercise greater control over the form in which his work appeared, those shortcomings became conspicuous, and defined the public perception of his work."

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Most of that i agree with , but leave the female art out of it. Some people actually like women like that (Me included) if i wanted realism i'd look outside.

Originally posted by grey fox
Most of that i agree with , but leave the female art out of it. Some people actually like women like that (Me included) if i wanted realism i'd look outside.

To each his own I say. But might I suggest the artwork of Greg Horn? Imo, he is one of the top artists at drawing female characters.
http://www.greghornjudge.com/

Originally posted by TheKahn
To each his own I say. But might I suggest the artwork of Greg Horn? Imo, he is one of the top artists at drawing female characters.
http://www.greghornjudge.com/

He does good work .... i still like Loebs female work though . His male art sucks major noogies though , cables biceps were bigger then his freakin head !

Originally posted by grey fox
He does good work .... i still like Loebs female work though . His male art sucks major noogies though , cables biceps were bigger then his freakin head !

Yes. Yes it does. 😉

Originally posted by TheKahn
Yes. Yes it does. 😉

Proportion doesn't matter majorly though when it comes to the female anatomy drooliodroolio

Originally posted by grey fox
He does good work .... i still like Loebs female work though . His male art sucks major noogies though , cables biceps were bigger then his freakin head !
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Jeph Loebs an artist? 😄

Originally posted by grey fox
He does good work .... i still like Loebs female work though . His male art sucks major noogies though , cables biceps were bigger then his freakin head !

man, i cant believe nobody digs weird non-proportional stuff

I am talking more in the vein of animation vs Liefield, but still, give the man some credit

im sure you could look through the work of any artist and find specific instances where they butchered a picture, like that aweful cap...

There's more artists that (somewhat) ignore proportion than those who don't. Even Jim Lee, the superstar that he is, has some bad proportion in most of his art. Liefeld's certainly the worst at it though as you can see in the pic where Hulk's arm is longer than the rest of his body.

I tend to think Liefeld's main problem is consistency. Read the issues he did on Teen Titans last year (or maybe not) and you'll see Wonder Girl and Robin somehow change costumes for no reason. Even this series of pics show Mjolnir with different color straps and Thor with different color wristbands. At this point I think the colorists are just screwing with Rob. 😂

i was more talking about stylistic exageration of proportion, a lot of the stuff you are talking about is a decent critisism imho

I like stuff in comics that looks sureal and animated, goes with the turf if you ask me. Like nextwave or batman😖ecrets/year 100

wicked stuff 🙂

The man likes his biceps massive, his ladyspines U shaped, and his noses chiseled.

and no smiles.

Oh man. I wish Loeb writes these pieces exceptionally well cause i'm very worried to probability of having to pair with liefield and his brand of art makes comics almost impossible to redeem.

Originally posted by DraconaInVolata

Fear his man boobs of death! 😛

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That's the worst comic book rendering I've ever seen. How the hell can his chest be in perspective like that without his other arm or leg being visible?

Reminds me of something I might have done in 9th grade and a classmate's reaccuring proportion problems.

I thought that I was the only person that hated Rob Liefelds sketches... I wish they would use another artist to do Onslaught Reborn, Claudio Castelini, or Joe Maduiera would be great picks, but you can't always get what you want.

I can't believe it, but I think he has actually improved.
1. http://www.robliefeld.net/onslaught.htm

Is it just me, or in the picture The Kahn put up, do Cable and Shatterstar look constipated?

Eveyone Liefeld draws looks constipated. Not just Cable. Gimme a break here. It's bad enough he co-created one of my favorite x-men characters, isn't it? 🙁

Some Leifield is alright..

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4653356

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