Wonderman vs. Hercules

Started by JOE NUNEZ3 pages

Originally posted by leonidas
hulk gets in the couple shots he needs and just about kills herc. that version of herc was only about cl50. ben grim beats that version badly.

herc at his best wins this, though it's not out of the question that simon could sneak in a win or 2. and while they are in similar classes, herc is top of the class, simon nearer the bottom and thor right in the middle. in h2h and pure strength the strongest version of herc has VERY few equals. herc's only problem has ALWAYS been his one-dimensionality. no blasts, no godforce -- can't even FLY for cripe's sake! no uber invulnerability (though he IS quite durable). he's just a REALLY strong dude who is VERY good at h2h. uncomplicated but still one of my faves.

well said champ.

"What happens after that scan is cut off? Leaderslair.com counted that fight as a Hulk victory and said Hercules was nearly beaten to death"

He lost the fight. That Hulk was more powerful than usual and damped with HR universe energy. Post Onslaught Hulk.

That Hercules was the weakest version ever and held its own the whole fight, taking the punishment without getting ko. Altho as inevitably obvious he would die if Hulk had continued.

I only used those scans to show how uber his skills can be when he wants to use them.

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"Good point, but I just think that since Thor and Hercules are from two God-like dimensions, I just think that Hercules could display a little more power. Marvel could make Hercules so much more powerful if they worked on him. He'd be much cooler with god-like abilities rather than being a cheap knock-off of the Hulk. I mean Hercules should be this god-like being that should be this huge powerhouse. Ya know what I mean?"

Altho they used him as "full God", they never had him displayed the powerset the rest of the Olympians shared. A shame.

Except the one time they had him being boosted -beyond godlikes- Oh the irony!

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"Hercules should have never been as strong as Thor. The reason for me saying this is, because he is a demi or half, whereas Thor is referred to as being a full God... I really hate calling these guys Gods by the way. It borders on blasphemy"

There is a misconception here. He was a half mortal and half god, he died and became a full fledged god. The interesting part is, while a demi God, in the myths he already displayed god level strenght. He did all his well known feats, while a demi god. Like helding the heavens or the earth whatever version you take. Or separating the course of rivers. Or defeating Death itself to save a friends soul.

Point fact. Demi God Heracles had atributtes already in the level of the gods and others that werent. ("half", get it?)

Strenght and stamina wer already god level.

invulnerability? Not even close. It was his weakest ability. Thats why he needed the magic Nemean lion skin in the first place.

Figthing skills? Godlike. He defeated gods beings with it.

Anyway, what im saying is, in the strenght department, ancient demi God heracles and Immortal Heracles are the same. It was the rest of the abilities that became all uber as well.

As for the fight:

"If it was Immortal Hercules, I would think in a straight up brawl, Herc would take 6 out of 10 matches. If WM uses his other powers, it would probably be stalemate.

Now, if it's Mortal Hercules, the favor is in Simon's corner. Simon could be possibly stronger than Mortal Herc, and has Quicksilver type reaction and fighting speed. 7.5 out of 10 for Simon if he threw down with Mortal Herc."

Sounds right to me.

I don't like the Demi god weaker statement. Juggernaut is considered a Demi god and Thor, Hercules, nor Wonder man can stop him.

As for this fight, I say Herc takes the majority thats only if Simon tries to fight him h2h the whole time.