Originally posted by Galan007
Once again, there's at least a Universe full of them...Exact numbers are purely speculatory, but to think several billion Celestials exist, wouldn't be too much of a stretch, imo.
Yeah I guess I was just making sure. Again the watchers die hard. Hate celestials anyone that stresses Norse gods i have beef with.
Originally posted by Kutulu
There are Celestials spread about, in addition to an entire Galaxy filled with them.
It's a Universe full of Celestials.
Originally posted by Kutulu
Exact number is unknown, but possibly anywhere from thousands to millions, maybe even more.
I have no idea what that number is.
Originally posted by Kutulu
There is said to be an entire Galaxy filled with Celestials.
There are possibly thousands, maybe even millions, of Celestials within 616.
There's actually an entire Universe full of Celestials.
I don't know how many of them though.
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Each Celestial while created by Eternity, explodes into Reality from a "Black Galaxy"
Originally posted by Kutulu
How do you figure a single Watcher is Skyfather level?
Watchers are above Skyfarthers.
Originally posted by Kutulu
When have you seen a single watcher destroy a galaxy on-panel in just a few panels?
Uatu held a baby Universe in his hands, and then placed it inside him:
This baby Universe was re-created from nothingness by the "High Tribunal" of Watchers:
"The High Tribunal have a gift for you, We have crafted it from the fringes of Alternity,
It is small, keep it safe"
Uatu says,
"I place the High Tribunal's gift inside me; A Tiny Universe"
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btw. Celestials for the Win.
You know wiki says that The watchers were able to fight off the celestials.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watcher_(comics)
In the above mentioned Fantastic Four story line, the Celestials, who are also self-appointed judges of whether a species deserves to survive, had given the Watchers a "thumbs down." But the Watchers as a species have grown to become so powerful that it would take the Celestials eons to produce the energy needed to eliminate them.
The above story is What If The Avengers fought Galactus
Originally posted by AlfheimIt took eons for the Celestials to gather this energy, because they were going to literally kill every Watcher in existence, [and remember Watchers are immortal].
[B]In the above mentioned Fantastic Four story line, the Celestials, who are also self-appointed judges of whether a species deserves to survive, had given the Watchers a "thumbs down." But the Watchers as a species have grown to become so powerful that it would take the Celestials eons to produce the energy needed to eliminate them.The above story is What If The Avengers fought Galactus [/B]
And the boldened text you provided isn't from a What If...
It's from the same comic where Sue explodes Exitar.... (FF #400)?
Originally posted by Galan007
It took eons for the Celestials to gather this energy, because they were going to literally kill every Watcher in existence, [and remember Watchers are immortal].
Well doesnt that mean if they cant kill them off the watchers can fight them?
Originally posted by Galan007
And the boldened text you provided isn't from a What If...It's from the same comic where Sue explodes Exitar.... (FF #400)?
Oops.
Originally posted by Galan007
No.The entire race of Watchers vs. the whole lot of Celestials = Watchers have NO chance.
I'd wager that just a handful of Celestials could defeat all the Watchers.
ok im confused here. Did I just read the celestials wanted to bump off the watchers but couldnt? What were they saying that the celestials could but it would just take a long time?
Originally posted by Alfheim
ok im confused here. Did I just read the celestials wanted to bump off the watchers but couldnt? What were they saying that the celestials could but it would just take a long time?
That was eradicating all of the Watchers, everwhere, from existence forever. Not going from planet to planet, but affected every single watcher within Eternity all at the same time. It was stated that it would take Eons, which to Celestials and Watchers who are in the billions of years old, isn't very long at all. It also shows it was within their powerset to do, so it may seem like a very long time to humans, but to beings that old it is relatively short.
Originally posted by Galan007
The entire race of Watchers vs. the whole lot of Celestials = Watchers have NO chance.
I agree.
Originally posted by Galan007
I'd wager that just a handful of Celestials could defeat all the Watchers.
I doubt that.
One Watcher was able to handle a Young Universe and place it inside him.
The Celestials in the end win,
but it wouyld take many more than a handful to take them all out.
Originally posted by Kutulu
That was eradicating all of the Watchers, everwhere, from existence forever. Not going from planet to planet, but affected every single watcher within Eternity all at the same time. It was stated that it would take Eons, which to Celestials and Watchers who are in the billions of years old, isn't very long at all. It also shows it was within their powerset to do, so it may seem like a very long time to humans, but to beings that old it is relatively short.
Ok got it.
Originally posted by Mr Master
I agree.I doubt that.
One Watcher was able to handle a Young Universe and place it inside him.
The Celestials in the end win,
but it wouyld take many more than a handful to take them all out.
In an alternate universe arc where Galactus consumed that universes' version of Uatu, he didn't grow huge, he just was satiated about the same amount that he would have been eating a lush planet full of life (which is still a humongous amount of energy, don't get me wrong, it was enough to satisfy him for many months). In the alternate arc where he consumed a Celestial he grew thousands of feet tall from the huge influx of energy.
This IMHO shows the energy level difference between the two species.
Originally posted by Kutulu
In an alternate universe arc where Galactus consumed that universes' version of Uatu, he didn't grow huge, he just was satiated about the same amount that he would have been eating a lush planet full of life (which is still a humongous amount of energy, don't get me wrong, it was enough to satisfy him for many months). In the alternate arc where he consumed a Celestial he grew thousands of feet tall from the huge influx of energy.This IMHO shows the energy level difference between the two species.
Celestials>>>Watchers ... I agree.
But the Watchers aren't pushovers.
Like I said and posted,
a single Watcher was able to place an actual baby Universe inside himself.
The High Tribunal of Watchers re-created that baby Universe from nothingness.
If Uatu can do it, then it's within the powerset of all Watchers,
which means Watchers give the Celestials a fight ... but lose in the end.
Originally posted by Mr MasterIf Uatu can do it, then it's within the powerset of all Watchers,
which means Watchers give the Celestials a fight ... but lose in the end.
Thats what I was thinking. I didnt think the watchers were as powerful as the celestials but I thought an average celestial would be at least skyfather level.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Thats what I was thinking. I didnt think the watchers were as powerful as the celestials but I thought an average celestial would be at least skyfather level.
Both Watchers and Celestials are far beyond Skyfather.
But if I had to compare the average Watcher to the average Celestial I'd put it like this:
(1 - 10)
Celestials 10
Watchers 7 - 8
Originally posted by Mr Master
Both Watchers and Celestials are far beyond Skyfather.But if I had to compare the average Watcher to the average Celestial I'd put it like this:
(1 - 10)
Celestials 10
Watchers 7 - 8
Well when I mean skyfather, like Odin in Asagard. , but Odin outside I think would be high herald.
