Terry and Rock VS Ken and Sean

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Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
they cant simply because ryu is japanese and so is kyo... that really takes care of the 'why'... do you really believe a highschool student is going to chump someone with nearly 30 years of fighting experience? give it a break already... you and shin always brown nosing eachother to death is giving me nausea
Then go vomit and stop wasting post space. I'm not going to waste my time calling you an idiot. Why do you always feel the need to insult people who don't agree w/you? Man up, dude. What are you like 6 or something? It's tiresome & childish and you always wind up looking stupid. Let's be civil here. Maybe the 'why' is because Kyo is seen as SNK's most popular/famous/important and Ryu is the same for Capcom. Do you have any official proof from SNK that they chose Kyo to face Ryu because he's Japanese? If not(and this is just another one of those assumptions you like to make), do us all a favor and squash that mess and move on. There's more people here who are tired of this issue than just me & Remy. Be an adult. It seems like everybody gets along fine and then you act like your period's on just because somebody disagrees w/you.

Wow Brainchild a little serious there....I thought you took this all in fun.

Yeah, he tends to go spontaneous every once in a while.

"spontaneous" is my middle name 😠 😆 I do take this all in fun guys, but this always going @ it with SaT over something stupid is getting old. Sorry if I was too harsh.

lol your entire post was a flame and you're calling me a child?..90% of your post had nothing to do with what I previously posted.. so you're the one wasting space... looks like someone is in desperate need of their own advice...

popularity also has its drive in the decision.. but how do you think he gets popular?.. who are they going to choose?.. a blonde haired american .. or a japanese with a cool name / outfit ?.. I'm merely stating the obvious.. games made in japan.. played more often in asia.. so the main character... has to be asian!.. whoa.. could we be on to something?.. 😐

plus Kyo is always broken , gameplay-wise, in every single KoF... thats another factor to his popularity.. just go dig up some kyo infinite combo videos on youtube or something

heres a sample for starters http://youtube.com/watch?v=2WAFfBWfKDg

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
lol your entire post was a flame and you're calling me a child?..90% of your post had nothing to do with what I previously posted.. so you're the one wasting space... looks like someone is in desperate need of their own advice...
Do you wear a helmet? You said that me & shin brown nose each other(not nice). The whole post focused on what you posted.😮 Still having trouble understanding the little words on the screen? Chin up, lil' champ. you'll get it someday. You need to work on those percentages also🙂 Rebuttal, not flame.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
popularity also has its drive in the decision.. but how do you think he gets popular?.. who are they going to choose?.. a blonde haired american .. or a japanese with a cool name / outfit ?.. I'm merely stating the obvious.. games made in japan.. played more often in asia.. so the main character... has to be asian!.. whoa.. could we be on to something?.. 😐
I guess you just answered my question about actual proof from SNK. You don't have any. You're just assuming(as always). Why am I not surprised? 😆

Actually.. you're the only person asking for info..most other people who enjoy fighting games respect terry as a character.. as soon as ken gets compromised you throw a huge pile of bs about how I'm the one whining..the Kyo / Ryu thing is totally obvious.. which brings me to how you ignored what I've said, when I clearly asked you if you thought a highschooler with super powers (Kyo) could defeat a karate master with around 30 years of experience.. (ryu)... that went unanswered...(coincidence? I think not).. then.. a majority (at least 3 out of the 6 lines in your post was instead aimed at calling me a child.. yada yada.. (which really makes you seem soooooo grown up doesnt it?... 😂 ) and trying to act like kyo isnt favored by SNK whatsoever... had the entire world recieved a part in the poll where it was decided whom to include in the game?.. no... that poll was japan only.. thus... japans decision influenced alot of the game.. kyo, being an asian character, was implimented due to this process, among many other factors (some of which I've stated) of course... if you dont like the idea of terry being superior to ken.. thats fine (not saying he 'is' ... but the idea bothers you very much obviously).. but dont sit there and act like everyone who doesnt agree with your opinion is being a child... other people have opinions of their own.. not just you and shin

heres the PSX Cover of Cap vs SNK Pro... (the correct way in my opinion)

Dude will you ever STOP with Kyo, Ryu, Tery, Ken, Iori

like i said you always do that..you are ruiing all the topics with this crap

stop it.. be happy that they didn't match him up with Guile

here a cover of snk vs capcom with Ken vs Terry

This is a "Terry vs Ken" match basically.. they are the backbone of the battle even though the apprentices are involved.. so what is being discussed is perfectly fine..you dont ruin topics by discussing matters involved with that topic.. so if you or brain dont like it, dont post... thats all..

svc chaos isnt out yet for ps2 😛 lets see ken dodge that p.wave 🙂

Svc not out for the ps2??

are you kidding me??

i have it pal, and Jap

and you must read the other post of the other members...

Terry wins from ken and even if Ken wins he hasn't enough strenght left to defeat Rock

and Rock wins from Sean

and you come up as first post as.. Terry rivals to Ryu bla bla bla Kyo bla bla bla...always 😖 tsss

Originally posted by shin_remy
Svc not out for the ps2??

are you kidding me??

i have it pal, and Jap

isnt that europe and japan?.. its not out in america as far as I know...
I had checked gamespot the other day for it..http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/action/snkvscapcomsvc/index.html

I have it for xbox anyways... its really a shame that SNK made no money from "Cap vs SNK" series

Of course I read the other posts.. I havent disagreed with anyone persay... its just that my opinion conflicts with others

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Actually.. you're the only person asking for info..most other people who enjoy fighting games respect terry as a character..
Whoa! What's that got to do w/anything? Where've you been? When I made my peace w/P. Geyser (a long time ago), I stated that my main reason for not liking Terry was those movies w/the lovesongs & stuff. I said in the future I'd try to look past those movies & that Terry couldn't be all that bad if he trained Rock. I still think that certain people would beat Terry, but it's no longer a matter of disrespect. Notice how me & P.Geyser don't get into pointless arguments and resort to name-calling (brown nosing?. Come on SaT, be mature) anymore? We don't always agree, but things would get boring if we did. We still get along though. I'm busting my @$$ right now trying to get some scans for him of Terry kicking @$$. You on the other hand seem to have something against me and now it's spilled over to you having something against Shin Remy just because he agreed(as did P-Geyser & 2D. I guess they're just brown nosing us to death🙄 ) that he doesn't want this to turn into another Ryu should've rivaled Terry cryfest. Even those who agree with you on Ryu/Terry don't want to talk about that HERE.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
as soon as ken gets compromised you throw a huge pile of bs about how I'm the one whining..the Kyo / Ryu thing is totally obvious.. which brings me to how you ignored what I've said, when I clearly asked you if you thought a highschooler with super powers (Kyo) could defeat a karate master with around 30 years of experience.. (ryu)... that went unanswered...(coincidence? I think not).. then.. a majority (at least 3 out of the 6 lines in your post was instead aimed at calling me a child.. yada yada.. (which really makes you seem soooooo grown up doesnt it?... 😂 ) and trying to act like kyo isnt favored by SNK whatsoever...
I call you a child because you constantly are the guy who can't just chill & get along with everybody. @ 1st I though it was just me, but now you badmouth Remy just for not agreeing with everything you say word for word. Your thought process is "If more than one person disagrees with me on anything, they're just brown nosing each other to death". That's childish and you know it. I'd never call you a child if you didn't always act like one. Going by the logic you use about Terry/Kyo, how come every Japanese character they have isn't more popular than Terry?

No. I don't think Kyo can beat Ryu. I've still yet to see any proof that they chose Kyo because he's Japanese(Maybe him being a cool character has something to do with it?). You say that constantly with absolute zero proof from SNK to back it up. It's your opinion and you have a right to it, but stop presenting it as an obvious fact.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
had the entire world recieved a part in the poll where it was decided whom to include in the game?.. no... that poll was japan only.. thus... japans decision influenced alot of the game.. kyo, being an asian character, was implimented due to this process, among many other factors (some of which I've stated) of course... if you dont like the idea of terry being superior to ken.. thats fine (not saying he 'is' ... but the idea bothers you very much obviously).. but dont sit there and act like everyone who doesnt agree with your opinion is being a child....other people have opinions of their own.. not just you and shin
I don't act like that. There are others here who disagree. Only person I think is being a child is you, because you are🙂 They're others who think Terry'd beat Ken, but that doesn't bother me because they're all just brown nosing you to death 😆 See! I can be immature too! Just kidding. They've a right to think what they want. Let's squash this dude.

I call you a child because you constantly are the guy who can't just chill & get along with everybody. @ 1st I though it was just me, but now you badmouth Remy just for not agreeing with everything you say word for word. Your thought process is "If more than one person disagrees with me on anything, they're just brown nosing each other to death". That's childish and you know it. I'd never call you a child if you didn't always act like one. Going by the logic you use about Terry/Kyo, how come every Japanese character they have isn't more popular than Terry?

name some japanese characters.. I'm sure I could rate their popularity level... a good example would be those new characters that came out of the clear blue to steal the spotlight from the older characters (the K999 team...then Soiree and his gang).. they arent still in the game for nothing.. and no I didnt badmouth remy for agreeing... the way the agreement occured was irritating.. it wasnt like a "Oh yeah thats true hehe" it was more like how a subordinate would agree with his/her supervisor in attempt to recieve brownie points for future endeavors..

plus its cute how you need proof for everything... next we'll have to prove tires are round for you.. 🙁

I brought this up because this became terry vs ken.. and people are all like "Yo terry would win, but he'd be exhausted".. give me a break 😆 exhausted?.. I really dont think so

See! I can be immature too! Just kidding. They've a right to think what they want. Let's squash this dude.

Hmm...?..wow you're so funny.. 😐 .. it was already squashed like 5 posts ago.. I needed confirmation? (oh thats right.. my bad.. I can only recieve confirmation after you've insulted me yet again.. some more coincidence.. perhaps I need proof though.. *cough* )... lets just say its obvious who doesnt like (or likes) SNK or Capcom here..

I can only say thanks Brainchild. You are right though... us arguing is going to solve nothing. Though to be honest if I do blow my top a little, it's because of the day I had. As well I agree there are people that can defeat Terry...if Terry could never lose that would suck. All fighters have their strengths and their weaknesses.

Anyways...I hope both you guys can squash this.

Oh, I've never said terry cant lose...to me he's at least a half or full tier above ken...the way I see things (with regards to pairing them according to 'design'😉 is that :
terry is a wanderer (complete with dufflebag), just as ryu is a wanderer (with dufflebag)
Andy is terry's brother and rival.. just as ken is ryu's "brother" and rival.. as someone who designs characters as a hobby.. I would believe this to be the most logical matchup...
then you have the rich guys... the ninjas.. the thugs..the psychopaths.. they deserve to be paired with one another as characters (with consideration to "omg you're lucky terry wasnt paired with guile!".. guile could have easily been paired with anyone from the Ikari team, and that would have worked out fine)

the sheer fact that brainchild agrees that ryu could pound on kyo, shows that their being "rivaled" was absolutely pointless and half-assed, and could only be the result of their nationality being the characteristic that binds them as rivals... its not Capcom vs KOF.. its Capcom vs SNK

furthermore.. on the issue of solving nothing.. why even have a versus forum?.. all we can do is speculate everything.. 'we' didnt make these characters.. so really who are we to say who defeats the other?.. its all about trading opinions and enjoying those opinions.. but thats obviously not happening here

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
[B]I call you a child because you constantly are the guy who can't just chill & get along with everybody. @ 1st I though it was just me, but now you badmouth Remy just for not agreeing with everything you say word for word. Your thought process is "If more than one person disagrees with me on anything, they're just brown nosing each other to death". That's childish and you know it. I'd never call you a child if you didn't always act like one. Going by the logic you use about Terry/Kyo, how come every Japanese character they have isn't more popular than Terry?

name some japanese characters.. I'm sure I could rate their popularity level... a good example would be those new characters that came out of the clear blue to steal the spotlight from the older characters (the K999 team...then Soiree and his gang)........[/B]

Soiree and his gang in any of the crossover games? Terry is a good deal more popular than the other Japanese characters. They could have put any Japanese guy up against Ryu right? Why'd Kyo get it?
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
they arent still in the game for nothing.. and no I didnt badmouth remy for agreeing... the way the agreement occured was irritating.. it wasnt like a "Oh yeah thats true hehe" it was more like how a subordinate would agree with his/her supervisor in attempt to recieve brownie points for future endeavors..
Wow. You've got a nasty little habit of reading a bit too much into something. You wind up seeing things that aren't really there. There was no brown nosing. NOBODY wants this to be a "Terry's rival shoulda coulda woulda fest". Is everybody brown nosing?

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
plus its cute how you need proof for everything... next we'll have to prove tires are round for you.. 🙁
Is that SaTtalk for "Proof? I don't have any proof. Please stop asking for it. You're making me look like a guy who's just making assumptions about everything again. I hate when you do that because all I'm capable of doing in response is getting angry and insulting people "? If it is then I'm sorry for doing that. Not trying to be cute. "Tires are round" is an obvious fact. "Terry should be rivaled by Ryu" isn't. "Kyo rivals Ryu because he's Japanese" isn't either. It's opinion. It really shouldn't be that hard to understand. Seriously dude, ask yourself how come you're the ONLY one acting like this? I'm getting along with everybody but you and I'm trying pretty hard to just get along.
Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
I brought this up because this became terry vs ken.. and people are all like "Yo terry would win, but he'd be exhausted".. give me a break 😆 exhausted?.. I really dont think so

[B]See! I can be immature too! Just kidding. They've a right to think what they want. Let's squash this dude.

Hmm...?..wow you're so funny.. 😐 .. it was already squashed like 5 posts ago.. I needed confirmation?[/B]

I didn't notice any squashing(Did anybody else? where?). My bad then. Fresh start for everybody now then. I'll make no more insults from this point on then.

Originally posted by SaTsuJiN
Oh, I've never said terry cant lose...to me he's at least a half or full tier above ken...the way I see things (with regards to pairing them according to 'design'😉 is that :
terry is a wanderer (complete with dufflebag), just as ryu is a wanderer (with dufflebag)
Andy is terry's brother and rival.. just as ken is ryu's "brother" and rival.. as someone who designs characters as a hobby.. I would believe this to be the most logical matchup...
then you have the rich guys... the ninjas.. the thugs..the psychopaths.. they deserve to be paired with one another as characters (with consideration to "omg you're lucky terry wasnt paired with guile!".. guile could have easily been paired with anyone from the Ikari team, and that would have worked out fine)

the sheer fact that brainchild agrees that ryu could pound on kyo, shows that their being "rivaled" was absolutely pointless and half-assed, and could only be the result of their nationality being the characteristic that binds them as rivals...

😆 I didn't say pound on him. I think that Ryu'd win(could possibly be wrong. It's cool to see you putting so much stock into my opinion though), but Kyo'd give him a rough time. Same as w/Terry Vs. Ryu. I think that Ryu'd win, but Terry'd give him a rough time. Kyo'd probably give him a lil' more trouble IMO. I'm very glad nobody in charge put Ken Vs. Andy. That would've been a real insult. I like Andy, but SNK gives him very little respect nowadays. For SNK to pair him up against Ken wouldv'e been showing little respect for Ken. It honestly seems sometimes like SNK respects Ken a lil more than Capcom does. Ken & Terry both seem pretty badass in the books so far. People like Ryu & Iori are getting beaten pretty badly. I wish there would've been a Capcom VS. SNK2 book. Seeing Ken & Rock on the same page would've been awesome. You think Andy'd be a better rival than Iori for Ken?

Andy was at his peak in real bout fatal fury special.. I think he was called violent andy (shadow andy?) or something.. a secret character...and his geki hishouken kicked major ass.. he also had Zan'ei reppa if I'm not mistaken... if they put that version of him in, I'm sure he'd garner major respect... KoF wise.. andy has been crapped on

andy rival with iori?.. I dont think their personalities go well together as characters to muster a rival with them... Kim Kap-Hwan always says something crazy to the evil ones.. he's usually the better one to create a special intro for in regards to Iori (aside from Kyo of course)... then you have Violent Ken vs Blood-riot Iori (great matchup in my opinion)

SNK wise he's been crapped on. Why is Choi on SVC Chaos and Andy ain't?

they havent updated andy at all last I've seen... (I stopped playing @ like 98 or 99...).. robert also suffers from lack of updates... even in Neo Battle Coliseum he seems crappy (and omg his outfit and fighting stance is horrible).. the designers need to be fired desperately... so many talented artists out there looking for a job