Anakin Skywalker (Obsession) vs. General Grievous (ROTS)

Started by Tarvos3 pages

Point is, Dooku's better than them both.

Uh, darth Subject, when did Chosen One = uber badass over all?

I understand that not alot of people like Anakin, and thats fine, everyone has their own opinions and the rights to them. But the fact is, and i sincerely don't mean this in an argumentative way, Anakin IS the chosen one, and meant to be more powerful than almost anyone. I know that when he gets burnt up, he hasnt reached that point yet, but he would have. I think the Dooku fight was just a poor example of both fighter's power. They didn't want Dooku to look like a slouch since he was a badass, but they still had to convey how powerful Anakin truly was at that point. I think they got some things mixed up in there. And I may be wrong, but wasn't LOE written after ROTS? If so, that gives that particular author the freedom to play with the story as he sees fit, within reason of course, hence why its not canon.

I think that OB1 getting tossed aside was sorta symbolic with what Anakin had been saying all along, and thats that OB1 was holding him back. Being as Anakin did nothing impressive while OB1 was by his side, but when he was out of the way, and he had the opportunity to give in to some of his anger, he couldn't be stopped. Being as GL said Dooku thought he was just going to fight him, doesn't give any indication that Dooku knew to lose or go easy on him. But i will also say that it leaves room for speculation, to suspect that he may have been.

I think they made Anakin win seemingly "easy" just to demonstrate his raw power, but did i tin a way inconsistent of previous trends. Never before have we seen him demonstrate a skill level of that magnitude. And that could very well also have been why they did it, to show his immense growth since we last saw him. I just don't see the benefit to the Emperor of telling Dooku to lose or hold back if he wants to see where Anakin truly is power wise. He even told GG that his new apprentice was more powerful (via hologram).

I think Anakin would take this with moderate difficulty. I think he would be forced to revise his game plan seeing as he cant match physical strength with GG, so it would result in him having to use his mind to ultimately destroy him. Which I think Anakin is smarter than people give him credit for. He obviously doesn't always show it, but I think he's extremely intelligent given his abilities as a young boy. So if Anakin was calm and thinking clearly, he would take it, and I see no reason why he would feel flustered.

That was a pretty good read...

Originally posted by Wesker
No, I'm telling you that from where I'm standing, this hearsay doesn't wash. I have the ROTS DVD finally, so I intend to fully review the fight again AND finally hear the comment with my own ears. As it stands, it sounds like bullshit, looks like bullshit...

Hm, must be bullshit.


Well, go listen to it already so then you can shut up with your movies > GL bullshit.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Well, go listen to it already so then you can shut up with your movies > GL bullshit.

Read my posts slower next time, dumbass.

Lol.

Originally posted by Wesker

Read my posts slower next time, dumbass.


Okay, dumbass, I read it slower. You said what GL said in the AC must be bullshit. Just cause you disagree with him you think it's bullshit.

Obi1s style countered Grievous's though. Anakin would have a lot more trouble than Obi countering the Generals attacks. Also, Anakin doesn't utilize the force much when he fights, so I believe Grievous might be able to take this.

No, it wasn't his form that defeated Grievous, it was his skill. Notice how he cut down Grievous in seconds? Anakin would've done the same thing. In fact, if the fight was based on form, Anakin would destroy Grievous even faster because of his form, and Obi-Wan would've been a long fight. Anakin is on par with Obi-Wan, so he shouldn't have much trouble.

Form III was stated to be effective against Greivous' "saber from all directions" style.

No arker, his form was ideal against Grievous.

Part of the reason they chose him.

Again, the form only sets them in a direction. It was Kenobi's skill that did it.

But you just stated that Anakin would deal with him quicker because he utilises schien. Seeing as Kenobi and Anakin are pretty much level in terms of dueling skill, you are basically implying that schien was better suited against Grievous then soresu.

Read my post more carefully. I said:

"In fact, if the fight was based on form..."

I'm telling him that you can't base the outcome of a fight on form alone.

"In fact, if the fight was based on form, Anakin would destroy Grievous even faster because of his form, and Obi-Wan would've been a long fight. Anakin is on par with Obi-Wan, so he shouldn't have much trouble."

This is what you said. You are implying that schien would be more effective against Grievous then soresu.

Soresu is the direct counter to Grievous's fighting style. Anakin's style is far more aggressive, and Grievous's style is EVEN more agressive. Grievous just beats Anny at his own game.

I've gotta say something about the dooku vs anakin battle. Dooku was trying to encourage anakin's anger and he succeeded in it, more than he would have thought. He really didn't expect Anakin's skill to increase that much and the hand severing trick came as a total surprise.
I'm sure that if Dooku knew Anakin's power he would have been more cautious and would have pwned him just like Obi...

Obsession Anakin would have a very hard time against Grievous. And I think he wouldn't disarm him like Obi did, but he would try to kill him with a strike to the head or something. Even if he manages to do that, I still think 1 of the 4 swinging sabers hits him and takes him down....

Originally posted by darthsith19
Okay, dumbass, I read it slower. You said what GL said in the AC must be bullshit. Just cause you disagree with him you think it's bullshit.

You know, I thought I was pretty clear, but let me break it down into sublaymen's terms so you can understand it (And confuse it for something else, most likely):

- Anomaly says that GL says that Dooku wasn't holding back. He did not give a direct quote, nor did I hear the quote myself yet.

- I don't think that explanation washes given the on-screen situation. I suspect that either GL's being taken out of context, OR he's just talking out of his ass.

- If GL's being taken out of context, then what I'm seeing on screen is affirmed.

- If GL was heard correctly, then his word's canon; I just don't agree with his stance on the fight.

- Just in case you didn't read in between the lines, nowhere am I challenging GL's decision IF it's indeed saying Dooku didn't hold back, nor am I throwing around terms like "GL is not canon".

Reading comprehension is your friend, DS.

Originally posted by skyflyer
"In fact, if the fight was based on form, Anakin would destroy Grievous even faster because of his form, and Obi-Wan would've been a long fight. Anakin is on par with Obi-Wan, so he shouldn't have much trouble."

This is what you said. You are implying that schien would be more effective against Grievous then soresu.

Can you not extract my point? READ IT CAREFULLY. The fact that I said "even if the fight was based on form" means that if the fight was set up in a scenario in which form decides the outcome, then that would've happened.