Galctus vs Shuma Gorath

Started by rotiart4 pages
rotiart Stan Lee Stole my name

Are we talking about when strange was backed by bother master order and lord chaos or is there another event I'm not thinking of.

King Kandy Senior Member

Yeah, that's the time.

They also fought a second time, but IB actually won that time...

Uriel005 Senior Member

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, that's the time.

They also fought a second time, but IB actually won that time...

Strange has generally fought his top foes with the backing of high end deities and I generally consider it so commonplace that you may as well call it a standard equip like batmans utilility belt except rather than gadgets Strange calls on gods.

celestialdemon Down from the Upside

Shuma Gorath is tough. Even the Vishanti didn't want to fight him a second time. But I'd say Galactus wins as long as he's not starving.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Who has Shuma fought really?

Galactus has at least gone up against the Inbetweener, the Galactus Engine, Thanos with the IG, Agamotto, etc.... He's going up against a high end skyfather soon too so let's see how that turns out.

I'm giving this to Galactus for the overwhelming majority unless Gorath has done something stupendous on panel that I've missed.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Uriel005
Strange has generally fought his top foes with the backing of high end deities and I generally consider it so commonplace that you may as well call it a standard equip like batmans utilility belt except rather than gadgets Strange calls on gods.

OK, you can consider it that but it's completely wrong. Strange was able to summon Chaos & Order because they needed to intervene to preserve the balance... they didn't just come because he felt like it.

Saying he did it with "contemptuous ease" is just false as well, since he was getting his ass kicked for 90% of the battle. Have you actually read that issue, or just saw some scans?

Bouboumaster Senior Member

Galactus ftw

YoungGunna Black Thought
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Galactus ftw
Colossus-Big C Restricted

shuma is the supreme being or one of the supreme beings of the many angled ones, the guys who created the cancerverse.....

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
shuma is the supreme being or one of the supreme beings of the many angled ones, the guys who created the cancerverse.....

so he was one of many people required to make a universe? would that not make him sub-universal? galactus level?

Colossus-Big C Restricted

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Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy
Originally posted by King Kandy
so he was one of many people required to make a universe? would that not make him sub-universal? galactus level?

The cancerverse was a multiversal threat

SasuOna Senior Member

Originally posted by King Kandy
OK, you can consider it that but it's completely wrong. Strange was able to summon Chaos & Order because they needed to intervene to preserve the balance... they didn't just come because he felt like it.

Saying he did it with "contemptuous ease" is just false as well, since he was getting his ass kicked for 90% of the battle. Have you actually read that issue, or just saw some scans?

He didn't summon them he was using their powers maybe you should read that fight again.
Chaos and Order don't need to intervene or even if they had to like your saying they would have done a lot earlier in that storyline considering the context of what they were fighting over.

As for this fight
Galactus was well fed against agamotto by himself in his realm and still couldn't kill him.
Shuma>>>>>>>The Vishanti as a whole by a lot
To kill Shuma you would have to technically become what he is and Galactus really isn't up to that.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss
Originally posted by Endless Mike
The cancerverse was a multiversal threat

It may have well been but who has Gorath ever fought that was in the same league as the beings Galactus has gone up against?

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by SasuOna
He didn't summon them he was using their powers maybe you should read that fight again.
Chaos and Order didn't need to intervene or even if they had to like your saying they would have done a lot earlier in that storyline considering.
Maybe you should read it again.

SasuOna Senior Member
Originally posted by Mindset
Maybe you should read it again.

hmmm okay..........lets see

He says "Now I shall call upon the might of Chaos and Order Together" and then mentions how its the power of the Inbetweener's being while hes defeating him.

http://i.imgur.com/dZA9d.jpg
Conclusion
Mindset and Kandy were mistaken about Dr Strange yet again.

Harbinger Firestorm

I thought Galactus was damn near starving to death when he took on Agamotto in his realm?

Mindset Senior Member

Originally posted by SasuOna
hmmm okay..........lets see

He says "Now I shall call upon the might of Chaos and Order Together" and then mentions how its the power of the Inbetweener's being while hes defeating him.

http://i.imgur.com/dZA9d.jpg
Conclusion
Mindset and Kandy were mistaken about Dr Strange yet again.

What was I mistaken about?

Colossus-Big C Restricted

Originally posted by Harbinger
I thought Galactus was damn near starving to death when he took on Agamotto in his realm?
no. galactus actually needed the eye of agamotto to invoke his near omniscience.

SasuOna Senior Member
Originally posted by Mindset
What was I mistaken about?

That Strange summoned Lord Chaos and Master Order and they defeated the Inbetweener which is what Kandy was saying.