Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusu mad
Honestly, Oeming's reasoning for that scene was asinine. Since Thor has Mjolnir and so on, Hercules should be slightly more skilled. Since when are comics about being fair? Hercules/Thor have had like 5 other previous fights and this skill advantage was never shown or hinted as far as I can recall. Hopefully it'll be ignored in future fights.Time line wise, I think that was actually their second fight. There are ways to explain away that scene.
All that being said, not many people would be able to break out of that hold. Thor had just gone toe to toe with Hercules and being put in that position by someone as strong as Hercules would be no picnic.
Superman and Gladiator would have the best shot in my opinion. I just wish Thor had at least attempted to break out of that hold and not simply stand there.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Were you born with half a brain? I stated in my post exactly what I meant
Yes...
Now again, what was the point of that post since we KNOW Zeus can generate FAR more power physically than anyone mentioned in this thread?
Was that some kind of low showing buddy?
Oh, my bad, I get it now... it was a April fools joke... lol... good one Iceman.
Well obviously my post was more about the diamondback character basically calling anybody and everybody who thinks Superman is stronger than Gladiator bias which I clearly stated in my original post 😐 Seriously the Hulk vs Zeus thing was obviously just an example a 8 year old could have figured that out
Originally posted by carver9
I agree with this as well. I have basically just accepted what people tend to throw off and sometimes ignore them throwing off feats to down Hulk or Gladiator.IMO... Gladiator at his standard levels is pretty much equal to Superman but his powers is kind of like Hulk in a different manner. The more confident he is, the stronger he becomes (which was shown during his fight against Vulcan).
He also showed this when he fought Supreme. Supreme was classified as being 4 times stronger than Gladiator but Gladiator was able to amp himself to match Supreme physically and stalemated him. Hell, their fight was so powerful that it was classified as being capable of detroying worlds if the fight continued.
Hulk IMO is the strongest mentioned in this thread unless people ignore "facts".
FACT... Savage Hulk was able to stalemate Thor for hours.
FACT... Rulk ran through ODIN FORCE THOR.
FACT... Thor was useless against Onslaught.
The moral of what I said is...
Current Hulk is far more powerful than his Savage Hulk persona... the one that stalemated Thor for hours.
2. Current Hulk treated Rulk like a toy... the same Rulk that ran through OF Thor.
3. Hulk completely ripped through Onslaught like he was nothing and this is the same Onslaught that Thor was useless against and the Hulk that fought Onslaught isn't as poweful as current Hulk.
Thor is pretty much equal to Supes and Current Hulk is superior to Thor physically.
All of this is common sense.
Overall...
Physically. Hulk>Gladiator>Thor=Supes.
LMAO, Iceman, i claim that hulk and gladiator are stronger than superman. here's my on panel evidence, gladiator destroyed a planet. hulk destroyed a asteriod twice the size of earth. These will be the only feats i will use. Now you will have every feat current superman has ever done to challenge my 2 feats. Good luck looking. Now also, you claim superman can self amp by willing himself stronger or stepping it up. Bold words, now prove it with scans of him willing himself stronger without sundipping. I will give you 2 years to prove your cases. I will give myself 2 minutes to end your false claims. Let me know when you are ready.... gladiator can destroy a planet with strength alone, yet superman has to build up mass along with flight assist and ram a small moon to destroy it, and you expect people to believe your statement about superman being stronger when everyone can see the biggest thing they ever tried to destroy??? thats whats laughable. on panel evidence is far better than your words.
Originally posted by DIAMONDBACK-777Oh you must be under the impression that I will even care about showing you anything or changing your opinion just pointing out not only Superman supporters are bias but Hulk and Gladiator supporters are too
LMAO, Iceman, i claim that hulk and gladiator are stronger than superman. here's my on panel evidence, gladiator destroyed a planet. hulk destroyed a asteriod twice the size of earth. These will be the only feats i will use. Now you will have every feat current superman has ever done to challenge my 2 feats. Good luck looking. Now also, you claim superman can self amp by willing himself stronger or stepping it up. Bold words, now prove it with scans of him willing himself stronger without sundipping. I will give you 2 years to prove your cases. I will give myself 2 minutes to end your false claims. Let me know when you are ready.
Let me put it like this iceman... this is carvers claim..Physically. Hulk>Gladiator>Thor=Supes....... This is yours iceman...Superman = Thor > Gladiator > Hulk... This is carvers evidence...Originally posted by carver9
I agree with this as well. I have basically just accepted what people tend to throw off and sometimes ignore them throwing off feats to down Hulk or Gladiator.
IMO... Gladiator at his standard levels is pretty much equal to Superman but his powers is kind of like Hulk in a different manner. The more confident he is, the stronger he becomes (which was shown during his fight against Vulcan).
He also showed this when he fought Supreme. Supreme was classified as being 4 times stronger than Gladiator but Gladiator was able to amp himself to match Supreme physically and stalemated him. Hell, their fight was so powerful that it was classified as being capable of detroying worlds if the fight continued.
Hulk IMO is the strongest mentioned in this thread unless people ignore "facts".
FACT... Savage Hulk was able to stalemate Thor for hours.
FACT... Rulk ran through ODIN FORCE THOR.
FACT... Thor was useless against Onslaught.
The moral of what I said is...
Current Hulk is far more powerful than his Savage Hulk persona... the one that stalemated Thor for hours.
2. Current Hulk treated Rulk like a toy... the same Rulk that ran through OF Thor.
3. Hulk completely ripped through Onslaught like he was nothing and this is the same Onslaught that Thor was useless against and the Hulk that fought Onslaught isn't as poweful as current Hulk.
Thor is pretty much equal to Supes and Current Hulk is superior to Thor physically.
All of this is common sense. .... this is your evidence iceman..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................
Originally posted by DIAMONDBACK-777I didnt fail to do anything i told you before im not showing you anything stating my opinion is enough for me especially in this case. Posters like you usually end up with nobody to debate with except a few casual posters with high bs tolerance your hostile style of debating annoys me and I rather ignore you try being agressive instead of hostile
I was under the impression that you would fail to present anything backing your claims.
Well obviously my post was more about the diamondback character basically calling anybody and everybody who thinks Superman is stronger than Gladiator bias which I clearly stated in my original post no expression Seriously the Hulk vs Zeus thing was obviously just an example a 8 year old could have figured that out........Your words..... Hostile is calling people out with no facts to back up your claims.. Show me where i called anyone bias... Also claiming people were born with half a brain or your 8 year old could have figured that out comment falls under hostile.