Originally posted by Dizzlehow much could puck lift/press ....I HOPE hes not still in the 500 pound range I know he got upgraded is he a class 10 or what class is he in...
Puck, more likely than not. He's stronger, faster, much more durable, and very skilled. (though not quite as much so as Cap) Hell, he's even a smaller target. Cap COULD pull a win, but I don't see it as very likely. Puck 8/10.
Originally posted by capt it up
ive seen wolverine punk puck a few times and though capt not as good stat wise capt is capt.
Ummm....when?
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1. http://forum.alphaflight.net/viewtopic.php?t=1275&start=0
Puck
The original Puck had enhanced agility and superhuman strength rivaling that of Spider-Man. He was also a trained soldier and formidable hand-to-hand combatant. After a run in with The Master of the World, his body was altered and compressed resulting into his tissue became akin to compressed rubber. The stats are from The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe - Master Edition #1
Agility: One of the most agile characters in the Marvel universe, even rivaling that of Spider-Man. He has superhuman agility, significantly beyond the natural limits of the human body. Prior to getting his upgrade, his speed and agility rivaled that of a 6' foot athlete even in his dwarf state. With his agility he can bounce off various things like a hockey puck and even now with his upgrade can do this feat to a greater extent.
Bull Fighter: Before he became a dwarf, he was a famous bullfighter in Spain in 1930's. They even said Eugene was better than Maera himself. Even Ernest Hemmingway was watching him and was quite impressed with his skills.
Durability: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained metahuman durability. Which allows Puck to withstand extreme temperatures and pressures, and virtually all toxins, corrosives, punctures and concussions without sustaining injury. As he said he became invulnerable, due to Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber.
Experience: Puck is very old; he was a soldier of fortune in the early 1900s. He has traveled the world and experienced many cultures, battle many foes and learned from it all. His age almost rivals that of Wolverine, however, Puck's age keeps changing in the comics. He has been in many battles for instance on the opposing side against Black Widow in the Tonkin Gulf in 1967. Also Wolverine recognized his battle tactics in Maracaibo and even battled with Modred to stop the Brass Bishop into getting into the new Tower of Babel. He also fought with Wolverine and Ernest Hemingway in the Spanish Civil War.
Fake Death: An ability he learned in the Orient, where he can place himself in a temporary death-like trance state. This can fool most people leaving them open for an attack.
Fighting Skills: Puck is one of the most skilled fighters in the Marvel universe. He knows a mixture of various martial arts, street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics. He even has such skill that allows him to sneak up on Wolverine, as he said "Who...? You! Well, well, well. I shoulda known you'd be the only one who could sneak up on me like that." [Talking about Puck]
Intelligence: A very bright person even in the heat of battle has quoted Hamlet from time to time. In a battle with Atlanteans, he quoted. "Let the foils be brought the gentlemen willing, and the King hold his purpose, I will win for him if I can, if not, I will gain nothing but my shame and the odd hits!" He's a scholar and often reads works by Shakespeare and even in the past was friends with Ernest Hemmingway. Puck can also speak fluent Russian, Japanese, German and various other languages as well. He also has a great deal of knowledge about magic, folklore and magical rituals.
Reflexes: Even prior to his upgrade, Puck trained himself to be the best shape he could be and even had superhuman level reflexes, virtually instantaneous. He could act out many battle tactics in his head only in a fraction of a second and in the next heartbeat act.
Speed: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman speed. That's the ability to run 111-115 miles per hour
Stamina: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman stamina. That's the ability to sustain peak exertion before fatigue impairs performance up to a day.
Strength: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman strength. Prior to just being a dwarf he had peak human strength, but now he is Superhuman Class 10. That's the ability to press 2-10 tons.
Yoga: Trained by an old Hindu, named Dr.Srivinda, which allows Puck to slow his breathing and alter his body temperature. Even to the skill level being submerged into the freezing Arctic water for minutes without any problems at all. This was at the time when Puck hadn't had his upgrade yet.
Originally posted by capt it upcap has good stats to, look under strenght level... http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Captain_America_%28Steve_Rogers%29
see this is hard to say. puck stats are good but capt seem like he could do this. ive seen wolverine punk puck a few times and though capt not as good stat wise capt is capt.
hmm im going puck 6/10
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm....when?
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1. http://forum.alphaflight.net/viewtopic.php?t=1275&start=0Puck
The original Puck had enhanced agility and superhuman strength rivaling that of Spider-Man. He was also a trained soldier and formidable hand-to-hand combatant. After a run in with The Master of the World, his body was altered and compressed resulting into his tissue became akin to compressed rubber. The stats are from The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe - Master Edition #1Agility: One of the most agile characters in the Marvel universe, even rivaling that of Spider-Man. He has superhuman agility, significantly beyond the natural limits of the human body. Prior to getting his upgrade, his speed and agility rivaled that of a 6' foot athlete even in his dwarf state. With his agility he can bounce off various things like a hockey puck and even now with his upgrade can do this feat to a greater extent.
Bull Fighter: Before he became a dwarf, he was a famous bullfighter in Spain in 1930's. They even said Eugene was better than Maera himself. Even Ernest Hemmingway was watching him and was quite impressed with his skills.
Durability: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained metahuman durability. Which allows Puck to withstand extreme temperatures and pressures, and virtually all toxins, corrosives, punctures and concussions without sustaining injury. As he said he became invulnerable, due to Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber.
Experience: Puck is very old; he was a soldier of fortune in the early 1900s. He has traveled the world and experienced many cultures, battle many foes and learned from it all. His age almost rivals that of Wolverine, however, Puck's age keeps changing in the comics. He has been in many battles for instance on the opposing side against Black Widow in the Tonkin Gulf in 1967. Also Wolverine recognized his battle tactics in Maracaibo and even battled with Modred to stop the Brass Bishop into getting into the new Tower of Babel
Fake Death: An ability he learned in the Orient, where he can place himself in a temporary death-like trance state. This can fool most people leaving them open for an attack.
Fighting Skills: Puck is one of the most skilled fighters in the Marvel universe. He knows a mixture of various martial arts, street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics. He even has such skill that allows him to sneak up on Wolverine, as he said "Who...? You! Well, well, well. I shoulda known you'd be the only one who could sneak up on me like that." [Talking about Puck]
Intelligence: A very bright person even in the heat of battle has quoted Hamlet from time to time. In a battle with Atlanteans, he quoted. "Let the foils be brought the gentlemen willing, and the King hold his purpose, I will win for him if I can, if not, I will gain nothing but my shame and the odd hits!" He's a scholar and often reads works by Shakespeare and even in the past was friends with Ernest Hemmingway. Puck can also speak fluent Russian, Japanese, German and various other languages as well. He also has a great deal of knowledge about magic, folklore and magical rituals.
Reflexes: Even prior to his upgrade, Puck trained himself to be the best shape he could be and even had superhuman level reflexes, virtually instantaneous. He could act out many battle tactics in his head only in a fraction of a second and in the next heartbeat act.
Speed: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman speed. That's the ability to run 111-115 miles per hour
Stamina: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman stamina. That's the ability to sustain peak exertion before fatigue impairs performance up to a day.
Strength: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman strength. Prior to just being a dwarf he had peak human strength, but now he is Superhuman Class 10. That's the ability to press 2-10 tons.
Originally posted by capt it up
ware u asking me when ive seen wolverine punk puck?
Yes, because you said he did it a few times. What are they?
Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
cap has good stats to, look under strenght level... http://www.marveldatabase.com/wiki/index.php/Captain_America_%28Steve_Rogers%29
Puck's far....far...far...stronger, Cap's peak human at best.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yes, because you said he did it a few times. What are they?
x-men adventures #5 puck atatcks wolverine with this spin move and wolverine slamms him into a tree with ease and then said that move has never worked on me puck and uve tried it 100 times
Originally posted by JOE NUNEZ
puck is not much stronger, and cap is a way better fighter........
Peak human is 800 lbs, Puck is 2-10 ton range...that's a big difference. Also not really they fought beside each other in an alien invasion and Cap compliamented on his skill and Black Widow talked about how they fought against each other in the Tonkin Gulf. He's a great fighter and has a great deal of experience.
Originally posted by capt it up
I dont own them all but here are two of which I have on me I may have mroe in my collection, but it take a while for me to find but here are tow of them.
alpha flight #9 yes I know puck was under mind control but he still was getting a beating.x-men adventures #5 puck atatcks wolverine with this spin move and wolverine slamms him into a tree with ease and then said that mvoe has never worked on me puck and uve tried it 100 times
No he wasn't I even have the comic, as well as the Uncanny X-Men issue which portrayed the X-Men side of the fight.
That's the comic based on the cartoon, non-canon.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
No he wasn't I even have the comic, as well as the Uncanny X-Men issue which portrayed the X-Men side of the fight.That's the comic based on the cartoon, non-canon.
yes but look that the comic man puck is clearly not doing so hot vs wolverine even with help.
also I did not know the second comic I listed was not a cannon my cover missing i bought it in a dollar bin lol
Puck has quite the strength advantage over Cap, and he might more agile, but Cap has got to be one of the best hand to hand fighters in the Marvel universe, he trained practicly all the Avengers from time to time on how to fight, plus Cap is a smarter fighter than Puck 10 fold.
Id say even without his shield
Cap 9/10
Originally posted by capt it up
I know u have the comic. ive seen u pst picture of it mangi, ar eu forgetting im wolverine8888.yes but look that the comic man puck is clearly not doing so hot vs wolverine even with help.
also I did not know the second comic I listed was not a cannon my cover missing i bought it in a dollar bin lol
I know it was you
Remember Department H erased part of their memories and brain washed them to not even remember their history with Wolverine. Heather couldn't even remember Wolverine's name was Wolverine...no joke.
Originally posted by USAgent
Puck has quite the strength advantage over Cap, and he might more agile, but Cap has got to be one of the best hand to hand fighters in the Marvel universe, he trained practicly all the Avengers from time to time on how to fight, plus Cap is a smarter fighter than Puck 10 fold.Id say even without his shield
Cap 9/10
Wow your nuts, Puck is one of the best hand to hand fighters here look at this stats
Puck
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/O-P/tf_puckback.jpg
Captain America
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/C-D/CAPTAINAMERICABack.jpg
What the stats mean:
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/extras/th_Powers-Abilities.jpg
