Originally posted by King_Mungi
I know it was youRemember Department H [b]erased
part of their memories and brain washed them to not even remember their history with Wolverine. Heather couldn't even remember Wolverine's name was Wolverine...no joke.Wow your nuts, Puck is one of the best hand to hand fighters here look at this stats
Puck
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/O-P/tf_puckback.jpgCaptain America
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/C-D/CAPTAINAMERICABack.jpgWhat the stats mean:
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/extras/th_Powers-Abilities.jpg [/B]
Originally posted by capt it up
wow I just realized some thing. the dude name just reminded me of some thing.capt ebat us agent who has a lot of the same abilites puck has so actauly I moving my vote to 5.5/10 puck
He's not nearly as durable, and I'd argue that he isn't as skilled either. Cap has an edge on Puck, but not a really huge one, and definitely not one that can overcome Puck's staggering physical advantages. Puck 8/10.
Originally posted by capt it up
wow I just realized some thing. the dude name just reminded me of some thing.capt ebat us agent who has a lot of the same abilites puck has so actauly I moving my vote to 5.5/10 puck
Huh? their not even close, Puck compressed rubber so basically anything Cap throws at him boucnes off.
Originally posted by capt it up
I think were all about to be made to look foolish. when ever alpha flight thread comes up that mangi on and he stops posting for a while it means he about to get a shit load of pics and evidence and own us
So wise 🙂
Originally posted by King_Mungi
[b]Puck vs. The Incredible Hulk
Alpha Flight #29-This is classic Puck prior to his upgrade who was just a dwarf with peak human strength and body. He does really well against the brute. Anyways Alpha Flight did this experiment hoping to find a new body for Walter, but in the end they did but it was the Hulk. So instead of killing Bruce Banner, Walter sacrificed his life so Banner could life. However, Hulk was on a toe-line and Alpha Flight reeled him in thinking it was Walter. So when Hulk attacks an unsuspecting Box, the only one to act is Puck. The rest of the team is preoccuiped with their own things. Just to note, Box armor does not weigh multiple tons.Feats shown:
-Puck's agility avoiding Hulk's attack
-Puck's intelligence figuring out which Hulk this is
-Puck's heart taking on a person who is bigger and stronger than he is
-Puck saves Shaman's life1. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-01.jpg
2. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-0203.jpg
3. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-04.jpg
4. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-05.jpg
5. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-06.jpg
6. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-07.jpg
7. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-08.jpg
8. http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e54/A_Flight6/AlphaFlight29-09.jpg [/B]
Originally posted by King_Mungi
? Guy has agility like Spider-Man1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight121-08.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight121-09.jpg
3. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight121-10.jpgInstant reflexes:
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c133/A_Flight3/AlphaFlight16-15.jpgPuck's body is compressed rubber, most of the attacks wouldn't do anything to him. They would just bounce off of him. As said, he is invulnerable.
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/avengers_v1_324_11_rougher.jpg
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Puck's awesome, it doesn't matter who it is if need be....he will punch you in the balls 🙂Wolverine:
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/w_179_014.jpg
2. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/w_179_015.jpgDemon-Same type as Wendigo
1. http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d187/A_Flight/Wolverine172-13.jpg
Originally posted by King_Mungi
HAT TRICK!
1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight113-06.jpg
Originally posted by Dizzle
He's not nearly as durable, and I'd argue that he isn't as skilled either. Cap has an edge on Puck, but not a really huge one, and definitely not one that can overcome Puck's staggering physical advantages. Puck 8/10.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Huh? their not even close, Puck compressed rubber so basically anything Cap throws at him boucnes off.So wise 🙂
Originally posted by USAgent
Puck has quite the strength advantage over Cap, and he might more agile, but Cap has got to be one of the best hand to hand fighters in the Marvel universe, he trained practicly all the Avengers from time to time on how to fight, plus Cap is a smarter fighter than Puck 10 fold.Id say even without his shield
Cap 9/10
Puck's damn smart. Cap is too, but I wouldn't give it to either. Cap is NOT even close to being the best fighter in Marvel. Hell, he's not even really close to being the best on Marvel Earth- Karnak has that title very securely in hand. Cap has done next to nothing without his shield. I have yet to see any evidence that he is anywhere near as good without his shield as he is with it, because he almost never fights unarmed.
Puck outclasses Cap by a very good amount.
Originally posted by capt it up
us agent is a level 6 fighter the dudes no push over he may be even more skilled then puck but I doubt it
Not a pushover, but still not Puck. I'd say Puck's a bit more skilled, and a HELL of a lot more durable. Cap would have to beat on him for a LONG time to do any real damage, which is a big part of the reason that Puck wins by as much as he does.
[i]Originally posted by King_Mungi
Puck
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/O-P/tf_puckback.jpgCaptain America
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/C-D/CAPTAINAMERICABack.jpgWhat the stats mean:
1. http://www.unfluffybunny.com/cripp12/extras/th_Powers-Abilities.jpg [/B]
Hey thanks for proving Caps superiority over Eugene!
Pucks fighting skills:
"A mixture of various martial arts,street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics"
special skills:
Bull fighting????
Captain's fighting skills:
"MASTERY of hand to hand combat, various martial arts"
special skills:
combat strategy, survival skills, acrobatic skills
like I said no contest at all
Cap 9/10
There are countless issues out there in which Cap is relieved of his shield for various reasons and ALWAYS finds a way to win.
Cap is a major player and major team leader, Puck is a middle team player. Super soldier serum over Mr. Flippy.
Puck can flip,roll, and bounce around all he wants to, but the superior "combat strategist", and "master of hand to hand combat" would take Puck out in less than 5 minutes
Originally posted by USAgent
Hey thanks for proving Caps superiority over Eugene!
Pucks fighting skills:
[b]"A mixture of various martial arts,street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics"
special skills:
Bull fighting????Captain's fighting skills:
"MASTERY of hand to hand combat, various martial arts"
special skills:
combat strategy, survival skills, acrobatic skillslike I said no contest at all
Cap 9/10There are countless issues out there in which Cap is relieved of his shield for various reasons and ALWAYS finds a way to win.
Cap is a major player and major team leader, Puck is a middle team player. Super soldier serum over Mr. Flippy.
Puck can flip,roll, and bounce around all he wants to, but the superior "combat strategist", and "master of hand to hand combat" would take Puck out in less than 5 minutes [/B]
How?
Puck is stronger, faster, more agile and more durable.
Can you explain how he can beat someone who curbstomps him in every physical attribute you can name?
Cap is better fighter then Namor, Hulk or Thor too, but I don't see him beating them...
No contest at all...Puck wins.
Originally posted by USAgent
Hey thanks for proving Caps superiority over Eugene!
Pucks fighting skills:
[b]"A mixture of various martial arts,street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics"
special skills:
Bull fighting????Captain's fighting skills:
"MASTERY of hand to hand combat, various martial arts"
special skills:
combat strategy, survival skills, acrobatic skillslike I said no contest at all
Cap 9/10There are countless issues out there in which Cap is relieved of his shield for various reasons and ALWAYS finds a way to win.
Cap is a major player and major team leader, Puck is a middle team player. Super soldier serum over Mr. Flippy.
Puck can flip,roll, and bounce around all he wants to, but the superior "combat strategist", and "master of hand to hand combat" would take Puck out in less than 5 minutes [/B]
Umm how does that prove he is so much better than Eugene than Puck?
As DC said how can he win against someone who is stronger, faster, more agile and more durable.
Durability:
1. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f188/A_Flight5/AlphaFlightv191-04.jpg
2. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/scan_puck.jpg
Endurance:
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/avengers_v1_322_13_rougher.jpg
Skill:
1. http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c365/A_Flight4/AlphaFLight_17_18.jpg
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Ummm....when?
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1. http://forum.alphaflight.net/viewtopic.php?t=1275&start=0Puck
The original Puck had enhanced agility and superhuman strength rivaling that of Spider-Man. He was also a trained soldier and formidable hand-to-hand combatant. After a run in with The Master of the World, his body was altered and compressed resulting into his tissue became akin to compressed rubber. The stats are from The Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe - Master Edition #1Agility: One of the most agile characters in the Marvel universe, even rivaling that of Spider-Man. He has superhuman agility, significantly beyond the natural limits of the human body. Prior to getting his upgrade, his speed and agility rivaled that of a 6' foot athlete even in his dwarf state. With his agility he can bounce off various things like a hockey puck and even now with his upgrade can do this feat to a greater extent.
Bull Fighter: Before he became a dwarf, he was a famous bullfighter in Spain in 1930's. They even said Eugene was better than Maera himself. Even Ernest Hemmingway was watching him and was quite impressed with his skills.
Durability: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained metahuman durability. Which allows Puck to withstand extreme temperatures and pressures, and virtually all toxins, corrosives, punctures and concussions without sustaining injury. As he said he became invulnerable, due to Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber.
Experience: Puck is very old; he was a soldier of fortune in the early 1900s. He has traveled the world and experienced many cultures, battle many foes and learned from it all. His age almost rivals that of Wolverine, however, Puck's age keeps changing in the comics. He has been in many battles for instance on the opposing side against Black Widow in the Tonkin Gulf in 1967. Also Wolverine recognized his battle tactics in Maracaibo and even battled with Modred to stop the Brass Bishop into getting into the new Tower of Babel. He also fought with Wolverine and Ernest Hemingway in the Spanish Civil War.
Fake Death: An ability he learned in the Orient, where he can place himself in a temporary death-like trance state. This can fool most people leaving them open for an attack.
Fighting Skills: Puck is one of the most skilled fighters in the Marvel universe. He knows a mixture of various martial arts, street fighting techniques, acrobatics and gymnastics. He even has such skill that allows him to sneak up on Wolverine, as he said "Who...? You! Well, well, well. I shoulda known you'd be the only one who could sneak up on me like that." [Talking about Puck]
Intelligence: A very bright person even in the heat of battle has quoted Hamlet from time to time. In a battle with Atlanteans, he quoted. "Let the foils be brought the gentlemen willing, and the King hold his purpose, I will win for him if I can, if not, I will gain nothing but my shame and the odd hits!" He's a scholar and often reads works by Shakespeare and even in the past was friends with Ernest Hemmingway. Puck can also speak fluent Russian, Japanese, German and various other languages as well. He also has a great deal of knowledge about magic, folklore and magical rituals.
Reflexes: Even prior to his upgrade, Puck trained himself to be the best shape he could be and even had superhuman level reflexes, virtually instantaneous. He could act out many battle tactics in his head only in a fraction of a second and in the next heartbeat act.
Speed: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman speed. That's the ability to run 111-115 miles per hour
Stamina: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman stamina. That's the ability to sustain peak exertion before fatigue impairs performance up to a day.
Strength: After the experimentations from The Master and having his body compressed, Puck gained superhuman strength. Prior to just being a dwarf he had peak human strength, but now he is Superhuman Class 10. That's the ability to press 2-10 tons.
Yoga: Trained by an old Hindu, named Dr.Srivinda, which allows Puck to slow his breathing and alter his body temperature. Even to the skill level being submerged into the freezing Arctic water for minutes without any problems at all. This was at the time when Puck hadn't had his upgrade yet.
Puck wins 10/10
"Which allows Puck to withstand extreme temperatures and pressures, and virtually all toxins, corrosives, punctures and concussions without sustaining injury. As he said he became invulnerable, due to Puck's tissues were condensed at a molecular level, causing his body to become akin to compressed rubber."
If Captain America can't knock him out with his shield or punches then he can't win. So basically he fighing a smaller, faster, more agile, stronger, and experienced opponent who he lacks a means to hurt.
Strength, endurance, speed ect...... dont mean squat when you up against a far superior fighter like Cap is to Puck, you can be the strongest tank in the world , but when going up against someone that can counter your EVERY move, and use Pucks strength and size against him, Cap will find a way to beat him. no dought.
I mean how many times has Cap defeated foes that dwarf his strength, speed, endurance, durability ect and won? Let Caps record stand for itself........Puck dont stand a chance in the world......at all.
Originally posted by USAgent
Strength, endurance, speed ect...... dont mean squat when you up against a far superior fighter like Cap is to Puck, you can be the strongest tank in the world , but when going up against someone that can counter your EVERY move, and use Pucks strength and size against him, Cap will find a way to beat him. no dought.
I mean how many times has Cap defeated foes that dwarf his strength, speed, endurance, durability ect and won? Let Caps record stand for itself........Puck dont stand a chance in the world......at all.
The only reason Capt would take a majority win is due to popularity.
Seriously puck is a dwarf midget carnifolk look'n screw ball but he should OWN Capt.
Wow Puck can take ANY shot Capt can land and bounce right back literally. Capt is going to be limited by how many attacks he can take because Puck is far faster, more agile, stronger and damn near as skilled..................yeah this is a sad day for Capt I am afraid. Canada finally did beat the USA in combat🙁
Oh yeah, those screen shots were from Freedom Force 🙂, They were just a joke anyway. What no one seen off screen was Hurcules was the one who knocked out Puck, and I just had Cap there standing next to him LOL!
...I could make it look like Puck whips Thanos, Apocolyps, and Terrax combined!!
Im not gonna deny Puck is quicker, much stronger, and far more durable than Cap, and yes his fighting skills are great, but I guarntee if someone polled all the Marvel fans on who they think the top 10 hand to hand fighters are on Marvel earth, Cap would be on the majority of the lists and I dont think Mr. Judd would be on any at all.
What good is all that speed and strength if you you opponent can counter it all?